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Maybe already bespoken: Where is Roland’s Lyrics Viewer please?

2 months 5 days ago
Galuwen
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Maybe already bespoken: Where is Roland’s Lyrics Viewer please? #609
Hi Folks,

I try to find Roland’s great Lyrics Viewer for IPad? Can’t find it in the store anymore. Is it gone? Can somebody share it?

Thx.

Alexander

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2 months 1 day ago
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Maybe already bespoken: Where is Roland’s Lyrics Viewer please? #616
Last time I looked, it was hard to track down (App store search isn't very good). Try searches for Roland, Lyrics, Viewer, etc..

You are searching in the app store with your iPad, right? I think if you use an iPhone it doesn't show apps that won't run on an iPhone (same with a Mac)

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Maybe already bespoken: Where is Roland’s Lyrics Viewer please? #617
Yes I am searching with my iPad mini 4.

But with no result on each of the keywords :-/.

Akexander

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2 months 22 hours ago
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Maybe already bespoken: Where is Roland’s Lyrics Viewer please? #618
Have you tried contacting Roland?

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Maybe already bespoken: Where is Roland’s Lyrics Viewer please? #622
Yes I did:

vielen Dank für Ihre Anfrage.
Thank you very much for contacting us.

 

Die Lyrics Viewer App wurde eingestellt und ist daher nicht mehr verfügbar. Siehe: www.roland.com/global/support/support_news/17092010511/

Lyrics Viewer is discontinued and there for is not any longer available. Please see (link above)

Auch wir haben keinen Zugriff auf diese App mehr. Daher können wir Ihnen leider keinen entsprechenden Link anbieten. Wir bedauern dies sehr und bitten um Verständnis

Also we have no longer access to this app. So we can't provide a download link anymore. We are sorry and a ask for your understanding.

 

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Best regards

 

RGM Customer Support

 

ROLAND Germany GmbH

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Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Darmstadt, HRB 91478

Geschäftsführer: Markus Sailer, Tim Walter, Kazuya Yanase

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1 month 4 weeks ago
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Maybe already bespoken: Where is Roland’s Lyrics Viewer please? #623
English please... If this reply was of any use, would you mind translating it?

Thank you

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1 month 4 weeks ago
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Maybe already bespoken: Where is Roland’s Lyrics Viewer please? #624
Thanks for the request. I putted in an English Translation.

Alexander

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Maybe already bespoken: Where is Roland’s Lyrics Viewer please? #627
Thank you.

Have all the other Roland arranger apps (BK9 Performance Editor and BK Partner) been discontinued, too?

This is totally unacceptable! Roland still have products in their current lineup that use these apps, that NEED these apps. Please contact Roland directly, as I will, and complain loudly. I can understand them dropping apps for discontinued products, but the BK-3/5 and the E-A7 all can use the Lyrics Viewer, and the BK-5/3 can use the BK Partner app.

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I don’t think so. When you look on their list BK Partner is still available. I think only Lyrics Viewer is discontinued....

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Maybe already bespoken: Where is Roland’s Lyrics Viewer please? #629
Which BK do you have, Galuwen?

Other than the BK-3, I believe all BK series arrangers have a video out RCA jack. You can connect a small LCD TV flat panel display to that and the lyrics will display fine.

I know it's not ideal, but other than BK-3 owners, it at least is a solution to displaying lyrics without tying up the main display(s)...

Something like this: www.amazon.com/Axess-7-Inch-Rechargeable...0354011%7C7070355011 may work well for you. FAR less expensive than an iPad and rechargeable.

Your other option, if determined to stay with the iPad, is to use a program like OnSong, which displays lyrics, chord charts, basically almost anything, and can send a MIDI code to your BK which changes to the correct Performance you have set up for the song. In many ways, this is actually a FAR better solution than the Lyrics Viewer, as it can also display lyrics for style mode Performances (Lyrics Viewer is SMF and MP3 only).

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Maybe already bespoken: Where is Roland’s Lyrics Viewer please? #630
Hallo and Thx for all the Tipps.

I use the BK7m and I use an external monitor. Is only a bit limited in "Resolution" and max. line lengh.

I will give On Song a try

Galuwen

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Maybe already bespoken: Where is Roland’s Lyrics Viewer please? #632
I mix my own backing MP3's, and work on SMF's without lyrics in them (and even on those you do, if you cut and paste them into a different structure to the original you lose the lyrics sync) for display on the BK-9's screen. I always have to cut the lyrics up into shorter lines to display well. I think there's about a 30 character line limit, so it makes sense to get the line breaks where YOU want them rather than where the kerning arbitrarily puts them.

I also have a habit of capitalizing the entire word of bar downbeat lyrics if I find the syncopation hard to remember. It sure helps if you don't do a song for quite a while..!

OnSong offers quite a bit of extra utility, but you have to go through quite some hoops to change your workflow from the arranger playing everything to the iPad playing it all. Rather than Lyric Viewer reading the lyrics from the file in the arranger, you have to play the SMF from the iPad into the arranger, so there's a fair bit of back and forth if you like to fine-tune your sequences using Makeup Tools before you consider them polished. You also lose the ability (in the BK-9 and E-A7) to use the front panel buttons to move to different Markers in the SMF (BK-5/3 I don't think have the Mark/Jump feature, Mark A/B isn't really useful, as it doesn't get stored in the SMF). And, of course, you also have to set the iPad up connecting audio to your system as it will have to play the MP3 to get lyrics sync too. Essentially, you basically hand off playing everything other than styles to the iPad, and the arranger is now simply a MIDI sound module for SMF's and your keyboard sounds.

You also have a lot more issues using the OnSong program with the E-A7, as it only has a 100 limit to the Performance List (as opposed to the BK's 999), so using PC/32/00 codes to call up the right Performance for the song from OnSong to the arranger would only work up to 100 songs, then you would have to call up a different Performance List (there is no code to change Performance Lists) by hand before using OnSong would work. IMHO, 100 is too short for a practical gig list...

But all of these shortcomings are more than compensated for simply by being able to link Performances in Style Mode to the lyrics for the songs (or a scanned chart, fakebook scan, etc.). Why Roland have not bothered with linking a .txt file with a Performance is one of life's great mysteries... Their competition all can do it, and I think it is one of the main reasons (along with no break/fill) that Roland are having their asses handed to them by Korg and Yamaha. Sonically, Roland are at least as good as the competition (at their price points), but the stubbornness in refusing to add style lyrics and a break/fill (they added the multipads that Roland users had been begging for for decades finally in the E-A7, even if they were too lazy to add much content) is killing the sales.

It is annoying that we actually NEED OnSong, as just about everything it does exists in already existing Roland features. They simply have never been tied together. The BK-9 and BK-5 can both display .JPEG files on attached monitors. But the only link you can set up is to SMF's (you place a folder named the same as the SMF on the same directory level, containing the JPEG, and it displays when you call up the SMF) but there is no Link between a Performance (unless it plays an SMF) and a JPEG. That was all that was needed to be able to use JPEG's to display lyrics, chord charts, fakebooks etc. for style mode. That ONE thing...

We never got it.

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