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I believe in you and me...A blend of Roland and Korg pianos.

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I believe in you and me...A blend of Roland and Korg pianos. #5842
Recorded with a PA4x and a 5080.
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I believe in you and me...A blend of Roland and Korg pianos. #5843
Sounds great.

One of the things that might be helping it is a slight tuning difference between the two sample sets. This leads it to be a little richer than most sets are by themselves. Which brings me to one of my pet peeves with most factory piano samples...

Too perfect!

What’s the last time you ever sat down to a real piano and it was as perfectly in tune as most arranger pianos are? I doubt ever..! To my ears, this sterile perfection is one of the defining differences between sampled and real. I have an old sample set for my K2500S of a beat up upright (the same piano many Motown hits were recorded on), and despite its small RAM size and being a couple of decades old it can still fool you inside a mix better than most modern stage pianos and even some VSTi’s!

Sadly, even micro tuning doesn’t fix the issue. About the only thing I ever saw that allowed you to tune the inter-string tuning (the unison tuning between the two or three strings for each note) was the Roland V-Piano, and that cost a fortune and weighed a ton!

Combining two pianos from two different manufacturers (two from the same rarely works as well as they tend to work hard to standardize their tuning and scale) can often return that sense of realism to your performance.

Another thing that can help is that it is unlikely the velocity crossover points between samples is the same on different manufacturers’ sample sets, effectively increasing the tonal range as you play harder and softer.

For me, the only way to get a good ear for whether a sampled piano is realistic is to play the real thing as much as possible. The more you do, the more you realize that they aren’t as perfect as most sampled pianos are..!
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I believe in you and me...A blend of Roland and Korg pianos. #5847
On a side note.. When I purchased the XV5080, I was using the G1000.. I was really disappointed that they didn't play well together..(arranger play).

The PA1x seems to play okay with the xv5080.. So I guess the culprit was the G1000.
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I believe in you and me...A blend of Roland and Korg pianos. #5848
To your side note... Roland's have always been a bit weak when it comes to using modules in style play, Korg's seem a bit more flexible.

If Roland are listening, a field in the Makeup Tools to route a Part (or even better, a Tone, as many styles have different Tones in different Divisions) to external MIDI and a field for PC#/32/00 codes would simplify this enormously. Having to edit the style itself and link to a MIDI Set isn't nearly as intuitive and quick to do. Plus, you have to link Parts to external output, not Tones, so this extra flexibility would be killer! (Heck, if you are going for it, how about a per drum routing within kits?!)

I bet there'd be FAR more people hooking up an Integra7 to their E-A7's or BK-5's (or BK-9's!) if using external sounds in styles were as easy to use as this... Roland sell modules and VSTi's, they could increase their potential buyer demographic quite a bit with this relatively simple step.

After a bit more listening to the track, perhaps I can suggest changing the velocity curve to push the sound a hair towards those higher velocities? At its quietest moments, it sounds a little dull and short decayed, but from the low middle velocities on upwards it is quite delicious and sparkly! If that's your comfortable playing strength (you weren't deliberately playing very softly?) it might help to push the curve into that sweet spot...
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I believe in you and me...A blend of Roland and Korg pianos. #5873
This is so beautiful! I like this kind of piano songs! Did you compose that? Can you share the sheet music? Lol About the XV5080, I just bought hours ago the JV1080 and I'll get it today! But XV5080 is in my target too! Lol Technically it has all sounds from JV1080 and much more, but some say that some patches sound different, so I decided to check it myself! Is the E.grand2 sounds a real CP70? And more songs like that, please! :lol: And a friend of mine experienced that using arrangers to play accompainment parts with modules causes some sound bugs like freezing or gaps... Did it happen to you too?
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Roland G70, RD700NX, JV1080.

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