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E-A7 MP3 Menu Issue

4 months 1 week ago
saxdog2005
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E-A7 MP3 Menu Issue #342
So I got my E-A7 a couple weeks ago and I admit that I am not the most technically minded person around, but here's my issue. I use this keyboard for performance with backing tracks, so I love that it can play MP3's from a flash drive. My problem is this: I have over 300 MP3 songs, which means many MP3 menu pages, since one page only shows 8 files. Once I select and play a file, the screen often (but not always) jumps back to page 1, so while I'm playing and singing, I also have to be advancing many, many pages to search for the next song I want to play. Basically, I'd like to know if there's a setting that can make the MP3 menu "sticky," i.e. just make it stay on the page that the selected MP3 is on and let me change it, rather than jumping back to page 1. Again, I'd say 90-95% of the time it does this. Occasionally it stays where the selected MP3 is.
Thanks for any advice!

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4 months 1 week ago
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E-A7 MP3 Menu Issue #344
And as long as I'm dreaming, it would be great to have a countdown timer that shows how many minutes/seconds are left to go on an MP3 that's playing. In a song with lyrics this isn't a big deal, but on an instrumental jazz track that may go 6 or 8 times around, it's easy to lose track of just where you are in the song. Thoughts, anyone?
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4 months 1 week ago
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E-A7 MP3 Menu Issue #361
I haven't used an E-A7 yet, so I'm not sure if there's any known reason for when it jumps back to the start of the MP3 List.

However, from using MP3's on my BK9, I can suggest you try making a Performance (UPG) from each MP3, as this offers several big improvements... For starters, you can customize and fine tune the keyboard sounds, effects and splits for each song rather than having to separately hunt for them after you first select the MP3. So, one button press gets you everything.

Secondly, the UPS List stays where it is when you select an entry, and there is an easy Bank+/- pair of buttons to quickly scroll through your selections in groups of ten (which is better than the eight in the file list!). Order them alphabetically, it shouldn't take too long to speed through the Banks to find what you want.

I'm sorry Roland have seemed to drop what they do with the BK series with regard to remaining time of an audio file. A strange decision, for sure. What do they have now, a count-up from zero rather than a 'remaining time'? Mind you, both displays have their strong points... When rehearsing a song, you generally want to skip ahead to say 3:45sec, rather than work out what 3:45 subtracted from the total time leaves you!

Ideally, Roland ought to offer a choice of count-up or count-down during audio play!

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4 months 2 days ago
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E-A7 MP3 Menu Issue #387
Thanks! That was helpful, although I wish there was a way to keep the MP3 menu on the left hand screen from jumping back to the beginning. I made my "most used" songs into UPG's, so now I have 2 menus to work from, which is actually better than what I had before. But it's a bypass for a menu issue that really should be corrected (are you listening, Roland USA?), especially since this keyboard is designed with live performance ease of use in mind.
I appreciate the help!

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4 months 2 days ago
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E-A7 MP3 Menu Issue #389
TBH, the arranger concept has revolved around you making Performances (Registrations, UPG's etc., whatever the brand calls them) for everything a decade or so ago. Simply put, there are now so many sounds, so many styles, so many effects, access to so many MP3's/WAV's, samples etc., hand selecting all the elements for a song is completely impractical.

Yes, sitting at home and making a Performance for everything can take some time. But once done, it is DONE!

That strikes me as a better thing than waiting for Roland to change a seemingly random issue. For starters, I'd do some careful tests at home to see why and when the list does jump back to the top. Are you closing the screen, hitting the 'exit' button, using the screen for something else sometimes? I am a little bit perplexed as to why it would 'randomly' jump to the top. There is usually an explanation for things like this, if you slow down and note carefully what you are doing. And, if you do find what triggers the list reset, you can make a point of avoiding that action.

I would go ahead and convert ALL your backing tracks to Performances rather than just your most used ones. With the organizational abilities with the Performance List (copy multiple entries to another List, for instance), I think you'll find life a lot easier once you do it. B)

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4 months 2 days ago
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E-A7 MP3 Menu Issue #391
Yep, I understand. And I would make all my songs UPG's, except that each bank only has room for 100 songs, and I have over 300, so either way I'm switching from menu to menu. A lot of those I don't use though, or only use infrequently, so working between the MP3 list and the UPG list is ok for now. I'm sure that as I get more familiar with the keyboard I'll learn better how to manage it, but for now, what works works :-) Every keyboard has its quirks though. I use a Roland Fantom G6 to create most of my tracks and I like it a lot, but my biggest complaint is that it doesn't have an "undo" function. After all this time with computer apps, you'd think that would be a no-brainer. But I've learned to live with that, and I'm just way more careful about things (and better at backing out of jams manually than I would be otherwise).
As far as the menu skipping thing, I have definitely tried to find a pattern to it or some function that's triggering it, but there doesn't seem to be one. But again, maybe as I get more familiar, whatever is happening that isn't apparent to me right now will become clear. Fingers crossed!
The timer for MP3 and song files though...that would be a nice addition, and one that seems like it would require a relatively minor software upgrade.
Hey, thanks for the help and communication. You've definitely helped me to make improvements.

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E-A7 MP3 Menu Issue #393
Yes, another of Roland's inexplicable decisions, the decision to go from the BK series' 999 entry Performance List to the E-A7's 100!

To be honest, I'd prioritize trying to get Roland to change that above all other things!

There are significant advantages to a List that is big enough to cover all but the hugest repertoires. For starters, as you point out, no having to change Lists' mid-gig... But also, because Roland still have no way to display lyrics in arranger mode, the only way round that is to use MIDI capable lyrics iPad/Tablet display programs like OnSong and UnrealBook, where calling up the lyrics on the iPad automatically calls up the Performance on the arranger.

Because there is no MIDI command to change Performance Lists, with a 100 List size, you are back to square one.

If you were to contact Roland directly (complaining here doesn't get it to their attention, Roland have always completely ignored anything but direct communication), I'd definitely bring that up... After all, the already have the code for a 999 entry sized list, whereas asking for a countdown as well as a count-up timer will involve them doing a fair bit of a rewrite!

I still think you need to do a slow, methodical test at home to try and pin down when and why the mp3 selection list jumps back to the top. Maybe it's characters in the file name? Maybe it's a filename longer than a certain length? Maybe it's file sizes past a certain limit? There's usually a reason...

Maybe it is a certain type of MFX selection, or after a certain number of mp3's have been called up (or their data sizes exceed a certain limit)....

Roland are probably going to be a tiny bit more likely to fix something if you can pin down a reproducible proof of the bug. Tell them 'do x,y and z and a will happen' when it isn't supposed to gives them a definite leg up on finding a quick fix.

But I wouldn't hold my breath any way... Roland have already done what, two OS updates? That's all they seem to do for these low priced keyboards any more, unless there is something that brings the whole thing to its knees, which this is definitely more of an annoyance than a show stopping bug.

Keep the pressure up, write often, and perhaps the issue goes away on the NEXT E-A series, but the odds of them doing another OS update at this point are slim...

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