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G70 and E-A7 organ tricks.

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G70 and E-A7 organ tricks. #6435
Roland G70 and E-A7 tips and tricks.

Some ideas I came up with while playing these two great keyboards.

Here are some tricks using sequences and the G70. Featuring organ.
Select a nice style with an organ part.

Playing with the style, do a midi capture.

Open the sequencer with the midi capture tune already loaded.
Select the organ track, and copy it to several open tracks.

Now edit the organ tracks with the octave, and transpose, to match
drawbar settings (16' 8' 4' 5 1/3' ect).
Now save the song as SMF.

Route the organ parts of the song to separate outs. Connect the separate outs back into
the Audio inputs.
Now select the multi fx assigned to the Audio input, #9 Rotary.
Adjust the [parameters to your preference).

When you select the song mixer, you can now use the organ parts (sliders) as
drawbars. Adjusting in real time while playing back sequence.

Since we can't send the great G70 drawbar organ to separate outs. This
gives us an alternative. Allowing us to fine tune the Leslie

(Not possible in the G70 organ mode or song mode).

Another trick on the G70 realtime parts..You can assign the six parts with identacle
organ tones, and adjust the octave/transpose to match the desired footages (16' 5 1/3' 8' etc).
Route out to separate outs and back into audio inputs, assign rotary #9 multi fx.

Now you can adjust draw bars with the six reatime part sliders. While playing.

You can also detune parts for a natural chorus, pan
will give width to the chorus.

Don't forget to save as user program..

You can do the same on the E-A7 but using 4 parts.. Assign same organ to each part
and adjust octave/transpose, to match the footage you want.. No separate outs but the
MXF works fine . Save as a performance for easy recall.
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G70 and E-A7 organ tricks. #6439
I think you would have to be careful with polyphony doing this, Fran... Most of the organ samples (not the HB section) are stereo, so use 2 voices. So even a mere four drawbar registration (say 68800008) would be using eight voices PER NOTE. 16 voices per note for a full registration! Play a five or six note chord, you just chewed up 40 odd voices for the simple registration, 80-96 of the 128 total for that full out setting. That don't leave much for the backing!

BTW, the idea of using the volume sliders to control them means that the voices are used up even if the slider is set to zero... you'd have to turn off the Part to avoid it chewing up polyphony. So that 96 voice chord would be on all the time. One decent palm smear, and I bet you'd have dropouts from the style or SMF, if not a lockup or timing problem as the CPU struggles to keep up.

Plus, I'm not sure there's any 'pure' single 8' drawbar to do this with, most of the ROM organs have extra drawbars (so you aren't getting a true pure sine on each footage), plus VERY few of them don't already have some chorus sampled in, and running a sampled chorus through yet another chorus or detune makes for some pretty weird sounds! If I remember right, there were a few 'dry' drawbar samples in the SRX-07 board though, but no single drawbar samples, there were all like 8888 or 86843288 type sounds.

But for me, the real spoiler on the whole sampled organ idea is no proper Hammond Percussion. Multiple trigger Percussion isn't really the true Hammond 'sound', that single trigger polyphonic system is the only thing that sounds right, and that's ONLY in the HB section...

If there is one overwhelming advantage the BK9 has over the G/E series and the EA7, it is the perfection of the HB section, with basically full VK organ editing capabilities, and all the mistakes from the G70's HB section fixed. Distortion is now pre-fader (but post expression pedal), there are a variety of tube and transistor distortions to choose from, chorus/vibrato come in 50's 60's and 70's flavors, reverb is post-Leslie, percussion decay rate and volume are programmable, and the Leslie is fully programmable.

I have done several organ only gigs with the BK9 and haven't felt the burning need for a Nord which I'm afraid I always did with the G70..!

Have you tried any of the iPad or laptop B3's, Fran? If you want the 'real thing', I'd say MIDI-ing into one of those should be fairly simple and won't touch your G70's polyphony at all...

(Or if you want to pull a Donny, order one of those new Yamaha YC61 organs! I am fairly impressed by how they have set up the action to be rounded enough to do easy palm smears, and it sounds pretty greasy!)
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1 month 5 days ago Last edit: 1 month 5 days ago by Diki.
BK-9 BK-7m G70. Kurzweil K2500S, Korg Triton. Samick upright piano. iMac 27", HR824 monitors.

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