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Band In A Box w BK9 for live performance ?

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Band In A Box w BK9 for live performance ? #6394
I've been checking out BIAB website, demo's and videos. I'm very impressed with its Live Band and Live Drums. I am wondering if an arrangement done in BIAB using the live drums and bass can be controlled by my BK9 ? Specifically, it would be great to use a BIAB arrangement like I use a BK9 style - where I can assign sections of the arrangement to the Variations Buttons 1 - 4 including intro and ending. Anyone trying this ?
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Band In A Box w BK9 for live performance ? #6396
If you are talking about the audio sections to be cued by Marker buttons on the BK-9, I have tried doing this and unfortunately could never get it to work correctly.

For starters, the live audio parts of band in a box cannot be used in styles, So using the variation buttons can’t cue them in styles, only sequences. My attempt to do this involves using the key audio section, but the problem is that there is a slight and, unfortunately, a variable latency on triggering the audio clips. So there was no way to have it remain in sync, and avoid any hiccups as it went across the junctions between the audio clips.

This is most likely caused by the read access time from the USB stick. I found that the delay in playing the clip was a bit dependent on how full the stick was, and changed over time as more audio and other files were added to the stick. So this meant you could not compensate for it by adjusting the start time of the audio clip to be a little bit early to account for the delay.

It is a great shame, because the idea of audio backing but still being able to adjust the structure is great.…! I found markers in sequences very useful, but unfortunately it isn’t achievable with this generation of arrangers. For it to work, there needs to be zero latency between clips, and the read speed needs to be much faster, or the data needs to be pre-loaded into memory.

My workaround for this at the moment is to create long and short versions of the entire arrangement, and decide in advance if it is likely that my regular structure is either too long or too short. Obviously, this means it is not interactive, but it does at least give me some control when I am performing.
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Band In A Box w BK9 for live performance ? #6397
Thank you Diki !
Yes, you understand my question perfectly.
Thats too bad it can't be done...wouldn't it be awesome to have that kind of control of the BIAB players? I'm still likely to purchase BIAB so I can use those live drum and live bass sounds in arrangements. I mostly play modern jazz/soul ...have you found any of the Styles for purchase as good or better than the factory ones that came loaded on the BK9 ? I am only interested in realistic bass and drum accompaniment . I play the keys, have a guitarist and a vocalist. We do a lot of improv so I like the flexibility of using the marker buttons during a performance. I just need more style choices...I was thinking the BIAB tool would be an awesome addition..
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The problem with band in a box is that it has never been real time. I have always wondered why with today’s modern computers band in a box couldn’t have been rewritten to allow real time chord input. It certainly makes for some very good backing, particularly in the jazz field.

You might always consider rendering your band in a box output as audio files, split them up with a DAW into different sections, then use one of the laptop or iPad Apps that allow you to cue different sections on the fly, basically like markers in SMF’s.

Some of them even allow Bluetooth foot switch control of the sections, so you can restructure the song on the fly hands-free! But a solution entirely in the arranger at the moment is just not possible.
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