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E-A7 multipads MIDI out?

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E-A7 multipads MIDI out? #5698
Hi ,

from time to time, i try to contact Roland Support. I did today according to your Topic. I find your idea about importing SMFs files to the PAD is a good and wiseable suggestion. I do not understand Roland, why can't they produce a qualitative Products in the arranger section like other Products. We need better Keybed, better, Speakers, more Space HDD, more RAM and a new Software to handel Keyboard like Korg or Yamaha. Why they keep stuck with this old Software?

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E-A7 multipads MIDI out? #5701
That the BK series hasn’t had a refresh since the BK-9 (2013) or the EA7 since 2015 doesn’t really offer much hope for the future.

I regret I really get the feeling that Roland have decided to abandon the arranger market except for low end home models (mostly recycled tech from older models). If not, they’re making a huge mistake leaving so long between new models and the almost total disregard of blatant flaws other manufacturers don’t have.

If this isn’t the end of Roland’s pro arranger days, they are giving us an excellent impression it is...
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E-A7 multipads MIDI out? #5716
I wrote to Roland according the Multipad issues. There answer was, that they can not find any information in the Manual about using MIDI Messages to control the Multipad. Then they write that i can use other Pad-functions. And they will Forward my suggestion to the Arranger Developers. But i hear nothing from them :-D . I report since many years , but no answer.
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E-A7 multipads MIDI out? #5719
Roland should really take a look at their policy of isolating their developers from ANY interaction whatsoever with their customers, take a look at how their position in the arranger field has slipped from a dominant first position to a very distant third over a couple of decades, and ask themselves if they think that policy has worked well for them... :evil: :ohmy:
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E-A7 multipads MIDI out? #5722
I agree Diki! But I blame MARKETING, not development for Roland's fall from preeminence. When was the last time you saw a Roland arranger in a store? The E-50 / E-60 were poorly marketed and under-produced; subsequent products also.

Someone speculated that Roland hires a new development team to re-implement their feature set with each new design, instead of reusing their existing code base. I think this might be true. It would explain the mysterious loss of features from one generation to the next, as well as the bugs seemingly prevalent with new models. And I agree wholeheartedly that more contact between users and developers would be a good thing!

But when all you see in music stores are Yamaha and Korg, then only internet research junkies are going to mail order a Roland. Your sales base shrinks, so now you have to amortize the development costs of new features over a smaller production volume. The start of a vicious cycle!

I'm not a pro player. For me personally, the true genius of Roland is their Chord Intelligence. If Roland does exit the arranger market for good, I hope they integrate chord intelligence into to their synth product line, or release it into the public domain as a plug-in for popular software packages. If not, look for me on the Casio forums ;-P
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E-A7 multipads MIDI out? #5726
Stores buy what is selling well. Roland have ignored features that arranger players want for decades (how long we got to wait for a break/fill or text display for style mode?) and have poorly implemented the ones they finally decided to add (multipads, sampler). Stores have to buy product to show it in their showrooms. They don't get loaned it...

The problems started when Roland abandoned regular music stores for their TOTL G/E series arrangers and stocked them exclusively in mom and pop piano stores (the CK lines) which don't believe in steep discounts and volume sales. So the G70 was effectively nearly a grand more than its predecessor, and stocked by very few stores (who didn't have the clientele or the knowledge to effectively demo and sell a highly sophisticated arranger) and started the decline, if you don't count the V/VA series' failure to catch on while Yamaha and Korg forged ahead.

I am the one (I think) that initially guessed that Roland's development team shows very little coherence and retention of personnel. The V/VA series was quite a break with the G800/1000 highly successful predecessor. No matter its capabilities, the Variphrase technology was ahead of its storage and loading capabilities, and never became an effective live use tool. Roland bet the farm on that. Plus dropped the Chord Sequencer after its successful debut on the previous series (and many other useful tools like drum kit strip-down). Then along comes the G/E series, away goes Variphrase (upsetting anyone who actually had figured out how to use it), the Orchestrator and many other features, in comes a behemoth 45+lbs G70/E80 (too heavy for most aging players) and once again it's playing catchup to Korg and Yamaha who steadily manage to increase the feature list without dropping much.

To me, this sounds like each arranger series was designed by different teams, with different priorities and ideas. Or were saddled with some exec in Japan throwing out wild ideas to justify his job with no feedback from the development team to say 'But this, this and this work really well, don't drop it!'

Along comes the BK series, chucking away things like the touch screen (which already worked better than Korg's and Yamaha didn't have one even on the TOTL series), chucking away slider control and button mute of Makeup Tools, and slider control of Cho/Rev/Pan to save themselves one button. But adding several great things like the Chord Sequencer (after a 12 year absence), the audio loops and that amazing 999 entry Performance List. All dropped on the E-A7...

If this isn't Roland hiring an entirely new team for every arranger, it's them hiring complete schizophrenics! Two steps forward and two steps back when everyone else manages one step forward and no steps back is what leads to where they are now...
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