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Backup arrangers #5642
I am always a bit taken aback at how many working pros I read about who have completely different arrangers as 'backup' to their main gig one. Not only different models, but often completely different brands!

How on earth does this qualify as 'backup'?! :ohmy:

It strikes me that, to use a completely different arranger, you have to a) learn a completely different OS, b) spend extra time finding appropriate styles and keyboard sounds for every song you do, c) spend extra time organizing a Songbook/Performance List/Registration for your whole setlist, and d) learn the different Intros and Endings for all of the new styles.

And that is just style mode! Add SMF's to the picture (at least MP3's will sound identical from model to model, thank God!) and you will no doubt have to work almost as extensively with the header editing as you did for the originals. Stuff like Part Mutes, Insert MFX's, EQ's and sys-ex drum edits simply will not translate.

This all seems a herculean effort if you perform a few hundred songs or more..! It's either that or accept a quite compromised engagement, simply because you went with another brand. I can perhaps see using a PA1000 for a PA4X, or a BK5 for a BK9, maybe a PSR970 for a Genos. But a Roland as 'backup' to a Yamaha or Korg, or a Korg as backup to a Genos...

Heaven forbid! :evil:

Perhaps some of you that have gone this route can explain the thinking behind it. Me, I've got a backup BK9 for my BK9! I had a backup G70 for my G70... All I had to do in the event of a breakdown, or a setup time that precluded moving my main gig arranger was duplicate the gig data. Job done!

I'm just trying to understand the willingness to have to duplicate all that work!
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BK-9 BK-7m G70. Kurzweil K2500S, Korg Triton. Samick upright piano. iMac 27", HR824 monitors.

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Backup arrangers #5645
I've actually done all the homework on several brands. Korg, Roland, Yamaha and Ketron. I could take any of them and do a job with no problem. Just stick in the USB drive and go!
In all these years I've never once been in a situation where I had to have a backup immediately. Knock on wood!
However, your analysis makes perfect sense of course!
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Backup arrangers #5646
I guess my issue is for starters I'm always adding new tunes (so those need duplication effort on whatever different arranger I had) and then all the work I put in optimizing the SMF's and styles with Makeup Tools, which won't translate at all on other brands but will to a greater or lesser extent if I have a low end BK as backup.

I was surprised at the amount of work I had to do simply to port my styles and sequences from the BK9 to my BK-7m, what with their being more kits in the BK9 and more Tones. To get the best out of them, I had to almost start from scratch, as much as I work the kits, substituting sounds, working the velocities, etc..

Mind you, I guess having been on Roland's exclusively since the 90's (for arrangers, anyway... I've gigged Korg's, Yamaha's Ensoniq's and Kurzweil's when it comes to synths and WS's!) has meant my gig data really only exists in one format. that definitely colors my opinion about other brands as backup, for sure!

I admire anyone with the patience to go through the learning curve repeatedly for different brands. Just the little time I've spent with my friend's PA3/4 and another friend's PSR970 has shown me the frustrations of figuring out how everybody seems to find a totally different way to do exactly the same thing!
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