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Roland E-A7 Use of Folders

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Roland E-A7 Use of Folders #5568
The more I use and perform with the E-A7, the more I like it. Some of the EPs are outstanding.

I use multiple folders to save my User Programs or UPS. Some examples are folders titled "slow", "Fast", "Elevator Music", etc etc. Each folder has as many as 80+ UPS files so I have not hit any file limit that may exist. This method helps me organize my UPSs for easy call up when performing. I also have UPS folders for duplicate UPSs for performing several songs one right after the other. Using the "User Program" buttons (1-10) just above my right hand makes it a quick and easy method to start the next song in the folder - or jump around in the displayed folder.

I also have folders setup with midi files (or songs) and these folders have well over 100 midi files - so I am not sure what the file limit may be for folders.

I use the Make-up tool extensively to modify and enhance MIDI files as well as onboard styles. It is really easy to use - another great feature.

Hope this information is useful to someone.

Bill
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Roland E-A7 Use of Folders #5571
I am not sure if the E-A7 is identical to the BK series as to folder structure (perhaps Fran can clarify?), but are you talking about individual Performances or a Performance List (UPS)?

Each Performance List can hold up to 100 Performances in an E-A7, and Performances can be freely copied between Lists. Are you currently trying to have a separate List for each Performance? That seems a bit excessive!

At least on the BK's, there is one folder called My Performances, and in there goes the Performance Lists (UPS files). You can't actually see the separate Performances (what used to be UPG files in the G/E series), the UPS is the container for the UPG's.

What you may be doing in error (it's easy to do this on a BK, too!) is creating a Performance before you have loaded in a Performance List. This will create a new List, with just that one Performance in it. But if you load up a List first (don't select any of the Performances, just load the List), when you save your Performance it will get added to the current List (at the bottom). You can then 'Move' the Performance to anywhere in the List (I keep mine in alphabetical order) and then re-save the List.

But there is a 100 limit to each Performance List (999 on the BK's), so your idea of organizing into moods or types seems good, but you probably need to do it at the List level, so all your Lists are in one folder. Time navigating between folders on stage is always slow...

The same applies to MIDI files. I prefer to have my SMF's already attached to Performances, so any Keyboard Parts or Track Mutes etc. are also memorized, and the one call-up calls the whole shebang. Basically, the Performance is the core root of the whole system if you want to be able to call a song by title and have everything you need ready to go with one button push. Sure, you can call one Performance then load up SMF's on the fly, but you lose out on so much more the keyboard can do. One overall system seems the easiest to use on stage (although you do have to do the work in advance creating the Performances) so you don't have to remember which songs you call up a Performance for, and which songs you have to navigate to the SMF folders (and remember which folder contains the song you want if it is multiple folders)...

As far as to file and folder limits in the hierarchical structure, AFAIK there is no limit (or only standard Windows limits, whatever they are, certainly larger than you need worry about!). The only problem being, the more complex the structure, the longer it takes to navigate to it if you don't use the Performances to go get it for you.

However, I do have one useful tip for you... Rather than leave all your gig Performance resources (SMF's, MP3's, User Styles etc.) buried deep in a folder structure, as soon as I decide to make a Performance of a file, I copy it to the root level of the file structure (My Songs, My Rhythms, My Recordings, etc.) and use THAT file as the resource for my Performances. The reason for this being, if you edit in Makeup Tools on the gig (I often find myself tweaking volumes or drum balances while playing when first doing a tune), you can quickly overwrite the edits to the file the Performance uses because it is at the root level of the folder, rather than have to bury down a few folders deep (if that's where the original is) on stage. Basically it's a quick job of opening the Makeup Tools, making the tweak, waiting until the song finishes (sadly, you can't save while it plays!) and then hitting 'Write'. As long as the file you edited is at the root level of the type, you will get a quick 'Overwrite?' dialog when you press save, and that's it. Unless it's at the root, you'll have to navigate whatever file structure you have before you overwrite the resource the Performance is using.

The Performance doesn't track any moves you make after you write it, it expects to see the file where it was when you created it. So writing the edit to somewhere else (say in a hurry) will mean that the Performance will call up the original unedited version next time, and chaos ensues! Only if you get the 'Overwrite' dialog will it mean you are working on the file the Performance calls up.

The old G/E series had no folder structure, so auditioning a bunch of files was a PITA as, to delete them, you had to remember exactly what you put in and delete them one by one. The folder structure make life a LOT easier by allowing you to drop a whole folder in, audition them, copy the few you feel worthwhile to a Temp folder (or even the root level if they are ready to go and you want to make a Performance), and then delete the entire folder you were auditioning. Much easier!

In fact, your E-A7 is the first Roland that allows you to create the folders and delete them inside the arranger. On BK's, we have to take the stick to a computer to do that. Step by step, Roland's file architecture gets better...
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