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G 70 owner again!! #5460
Hey,
not only, that I was able to get a Roland E80 a few months ago. Now I‘m also a very proud G70 owner again. I love this two keyboards and would like to ask, if anybody could sell me a SRG-01 Board.
Greetings from Bawaria,
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8 months 3 days ago

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Congratulations, Reinhard!

If you need manuals, a complete set (I think) is up in our files section.

TBH, (I know it's personal preference, but I had both!) I found the SRX-07 card far more useful. It has a huge selection of really good fat basses, a ton of great clavinet patches (a real shortage in the base ROM), some very good guitars (a killer Rickenbacker 12-string electric!) and more great synth and organ patches than you'll ever need!

It's amazing how much better the G70 sounds once you change the rather thin ROM basses out for SRX ones. The SR-G01 only has a few, they are good, but nowhere near as good as the -07's, with far more choice. For me, about the only upside to the SR-G01 is the StudioX drumkits (now in the BK series ROM) which are very nice, but need a fair bit of work to replace the G70 ROM kits.

IMHO, the pianos on the SR-G01 weren't as good as the GrandX on the G70, I found myself never using them.

Now that you have a G70 and an E80, maybe it's time to find a used BK-9 and complete your collection! Despite not having an SRX slot, I rarely find myself badly missing many of those sounds. Many of the best SRX sounds from different cards found their way into the BK-9's massive ROM Tone selection, especially some of those fatter basses. And all of the issues (pre-Leslie reverb send, post fader distortion etc.) of the VK section have been fixed. If you are a Hammond fan, the BK-9's sim is pretty much the best in any arranger! I can use it instead of a Nord quite comfortably, and still have all the other sounds and a full arranger/sequencer/audio player to boot!

Don't be put off by the lack of touch screen and much lighter construction... Hidden underneath is, IMHO, the best arranger Roland ever made!
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G 70 owner again!! #5467
Hey Diki, thank you for your tipps concerning usefull Sound-Expansions for a G70. I think, you are right: I was lucky to find a SRX07 Board on my G70, for what I even didn‘t have to pay extra money for. It just was installed there.
I will try the E-Guitar-Sound you mentioned.
Of course, I would be glad to have all this in a more „up-to-date“-Roland model. But I love the Fatar TP 8S Keyboard of the G70 (and loved it also in my G800 before). I already owned a FA06 and a EA7 to upgrade my Keyboards-setup. But because I found the hardware very disappointing. So I sold both and returned to the G70 again. I found all updates (and manuals) on my old Windows PC. So I updated it to Version 3. There is nearly nothing I miss. I never played a Bk09. So I don‘t know, how playing pianos and E-pianos on it feels like. If the keys behave like that ones of my EA7/FA06, there‘s no need for me to buy one.
For the moment, I‘m happy with my aktual setup.
Perhaps you are right and there‘s no need to replace the SRX07 Board by a SRG01.
If it does not cause you too much work, I would be glad to test a few of your adapted Styles with the fatter Bass-Sounds from the SRX07-Bord-If you could send me some.
Cheers, Reinhard
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a few adapted Styles from the SRG-01-Bord

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8 months 13 hours ago
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G 70 owner again!! #5469
Thank you, loshk!
I have them, too. But, as I wrote, I only have an SRX7-Board and think, that the SRG-Styles sound boring without the SRG-Sounds and epecially without the cool Drumloops of the SRG01!
Thank you anyway!
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Sorry :-)
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There were a whole slew of Roland official styles that came with the SR-G01 board, but I don't have them as I bought a G70 used with the board already in it but the memory wiped.

Perhaps someone has that collection?

Also, I think those better basses from the SR-G01 were included in the E80's ROM, so if you import any E80 styles you like, and substitute the SRX basses for the G70's ROM basses, you ought to get closer to the E80 'sound'. It is amazing how much of the impression of 'fullness' comes more from the bass sound than from the kick drum (which shouldn't be too fat lest it clash with the bassline)...

As far as my own SRX-07 styles, I do not think I have that data any longer (lost a drive a while back), but essentially, it is easy to open up the Makeup Tools on your styles, change the bass sound for one of the -07's basses (take off any EQ or chorusing used to fatten up the old G70 bass sound if used), adjust the volume or velocity levels to balance, and save. Barely a couple of minutes per song, once you get familiar with all the different bass Tones.

Try also making sure your sound system is set flat. If you have it set up for the G70, you may have the low end hyped a bit to compensate for those ROM basses. If it is, those new basses might sound a bit 'tubby'. But played through a proper flat system (I use a pair of Mackie HR824 nearfield reference speakers with quite accurate low end), those SRX basses will make the G70 sound fuller without making other sounds too tubby at the low end (like pianos and horns, etc.).

BTW, if you want to use SRX sounds on ROM styles without making them User Styles (meaning they are no longer under the Style Family buttons), there is a trick where you can edit the ROM style, replace the ROM Tones with SRX ones, save to memory (either Internal or Card), then backup to computer (using the exact same name) and then replace the ROM Styles with the edited ones in a computer and reload the memory. Your edited ROM styles will now show up as regular ROM styles. I sure wish Roland hadn't have dropped this feature!
8 months 5 hours ago Last edit: 8 months 5 hours ago by Diki.
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As to the BK-9's action, no it isn't as lovely as that amazing G70 action (used by Roland only on the G800/G1000 and the A-70 remote controller keyboard). But it definitely FAR better than the FA-07's action (I have a friend with one). About the closest thing I can think of to it is perhaps the Korg PA4X (I have a friend with one of those, too), or TOTL synth actions from the 80's and 90's (the high water mark of synth construction quality) like the DX-7 or Jupiter-8.

The migration to synth actions made in China has been very poor for players that actually appreciate a nice crisp action..!

TBH, if you aren't hauling gear around and want the best playing experience with a BK-9, I'd either use a nice quality 88 piano weighted controller as a remote for the BK-9, or use your G70 into it. But, while not a G70, I quickly got used to the BK-9 after decades on the amazing G800/G1000/G70. I certainly feel far more comfortable on it and able to fine control dynamics than I do on the FA series or BK3/5/EA7.

But if the ultimate piano-like feel is what you are after (just for piano-like sounds! I wouldn't want to play organ on a weighted 88 :woohoo: ) I would bite the bullet and look into a good proper piano action keyboard, either a stage piano or 88 controller.
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G 70 owner again!! #5474
Hey Diki,
I will try it the way you said and give them the exactly same name to find them on their old place aferwards. I love this Kind of "open architecture" in the G70/E80.
Although I must admitt, that my ears cannot hear the difference between the E80s and G70s styles when I run the G70s Audio-Output directly into the E80s line input. Perhaps headphones will help. I agree with you: you can play pianos and organs very well on a G70 because of the magic Fatar TP 8s.
And for Recordings with a piano a have a real piano and a Roland RD700NX. For the band, I will go haunting for a Fantom G8/X8 whenever I have spare money again. I attached the styles that come with the SRG01-Board for you.
Greetings Reinhard
7 months 4 weeks ago Last edit: 7 months 4 weeks ago by Reinhardba.
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Band gigs, I always simply used my arranger of the time... I never felt the need for anything different!

I must confess, my BK-9 is easily the best live band keyboard I've ever used (and I've used Roland's, Kurzweil's, Korg's, Yamaha's, you name it!). The meat and potatoes are spot on (the B3 section is now easily able to make not needing a Nord possible), the pianos 'cut' in a live band better than the GrandX on the G70 (although I still love that Tone for exposed ballads and solo playing) without sounding thin like Yamaha's, brass and strings shine, Rhodes and Wurli's work well, and there are a myriad synth patches (one huge improvement over the G70/E80 is now a bunch of the lead synth patches are automatically in mono mode without needing programming the Performance/UPG that way).

I've played Fantom's... They are a LOT more work getting a set ready than the BK-9!

For me, the speed that comes with intimate familiarity of just one keyboard outweighs having a selection. If you want a full 88 for band gigs, I'd still go the route of having two keyboards so you can play piano and Rhodes/Wurli stuff on a weighted keyboard, but the arranger's lighter keys for organ, synth, etc.. But you can get away with as light weight a 'dumb' 88 controller as you can find, because the BK's piano/Rhodes/Wurli sounds are well up to the task of live band playing!

Compared to the G70, the BK-9's extra Keyboard Part MFX makes a huge difference, it's like an E80 in that regard. But three MORE in the Style/Song section (which is what you can MIDI into with a remote controller) puts it over the top of the E80!

And, as we get older, hauling a 20lbs keyboard that sounds better than a 48lbs one is a plus when gigging live! No more 'Can you help me lift this?!' getting in and out of the gig... :whistle:
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After reading your reply, I‘m sure, that I really have to get a chance to test a BK9 as soon as possible.
Regards, Reinhard
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For the SR-G01 expansion card I have all the original data and included also editted data (OTS etc.).

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7 months 3 weeks ago Last edit: 7 months 3 weeks ago by Willem52.
Roland E-80 V2.03 + SRX-06 + SR-G01, FC-7, PK-5, SC-8820 and EMU Xboard61.
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