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BK9 Makeup Styles Software Error- Needs new Version?

2 months 1 week ago
Eric
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BK9 Makeup Styles Software Error- Needs new Version? #763
I may need a factory reset or reload the operating system or an update from .

Very strangeThings are happening with the make up button.
Sometimes everything works fine the the SMF makeup procedures.
Sometimes, everything will work when editing a song, except it will not let me change the drum set or make any edits to it.
Other times I can’t edit anything in Makeup tools.its locked.
This often happens with SMFs that are brand new purchases and also SMFs that we’re previously edited with the G-1000 makeup tool(similar tool different name).
Other times files previously edited in G1000 makeup tools will play short, cutoff, staccato notes on all channels but play fine on the the G-1000.
I called Roland support who said they would send me an email to answer with my files attached for examination- but they never followed up with the email.
I have used Roland arrangers since 1990 but I’m thinking of moving into something else if I can’t fix this software issue.

Also, the save process when editing a patch and playing a MIDI file is way, way, way overcomplicated.
I lost many programming hours by not performing the multilayer saves required .
Your comments are much appreciated

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2 months 1 week ago
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BK9 Makeup Styles Software Error- Needs new Version? #764
Usually, any issues I have with Makeup Tools not letting me edit an SMF boils down to sysex in the file. Especially anything originally for Yamaha...

Try this - Put the dodgy SMF in a DAW/Sequencer, and strip ALL sys-ex. Pretty much, any sysex you find in there (other than maybe a GS reset, which you don't really need, because the BK's reset after each SMF) is for another keyboard anyway. Once stripped of all sysex, save it (give it a different name so you don't get confused) and then try Makeup Tooling it again.

Every now and again, I come across odd problems with VERY old SMF's from Roland (dating back to very early GM gear) having drumkits with numbers for very old gear. You'll often see drum instruments (if you look inside the kit) with no names, just "----" as the name, and sometimes they don't play correctly.

All in all, most of these issues are solved by simply stripping away the old codes, looking at the data in a DAW. I currently use Reaper... cross platform and VERY inexpensive (the free trial is the full program for as long as you want to use it!), and most of the time, take a look at the data for the drum kit, you will maybe figure out what sound the file was supposed to play!

As to G1000 Makeup Tools data, it might help if you can recall what you did to the files in the first place. My bet is you did some drum editing, some of those old GS kits simply aren't in the BK's any more. So whatever you did doesn't really translate too well.

If I were you, I would simply strip all the old sysex and start from scratch. Do you still have your old G1000 (or an SC-88 module, which had the exact same sounds and architecture)? It might help, while looking at the raw data in a DAW, to listen to the SMF in the old gear. Then you'll probably be able to eyeball the drum track while listening to the old gear, and figure out which notes were what sound.

The bottom line is, unless you track down an old G1000 or an SC-88 module, it really doesn't matter what other contemporary gear you get. You are going to have the same issues. So you might as well stick with what you've got. Feel free to post a couple of the SMF's that are a problem, and describe what they are doing wrong (I'd like to see one where the notes chop off as well as one that simply will not allow Makeup Tools) and I will take a look see at them...

OK?

BK-9 BK-7m G70. Kurzweil K2500S, Korg Triton. Samick upright piano. iMac 27", HR824 monitors.

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2 months 1 week ago
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BK9 Makeup Styles Software Error- Needs new Version? #765
Also, please describe what problems you are having with the save procedures...

I do not honestly have any issues. As long as you save the right thing (always make sure you are saving the edited SMF, not a Performance, etc.) you shouldn't be having trouble.

BK-9 BK-7m G70. Kurzweil K2500S, Korg Triton. Samick upright piano. iMac 27", HR824 monitors.

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