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BK9 Performances

4 weeks 12 hours ago
Fran
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BK9 Performances #732
BK9 performances

Diki and other users.. What part of my concept will not work?

I am considering working with a "live" band, as a left hand bass and keyboard player..

They use a drummer , a sax player, and guitar player as well as keys..

I am considering spending a lot of time editing and creating Performances..
They would cover the live band, but also sequence play and style play
all with in the same performance..

I would want to set up the real time keyboard parts, the style, the SMF(link),
audio keys (mostly for audio drums in sync).

Mic settings, and transpose to match the band keys and I would play in the standard key..

And the biggie that could put it over the top...
I want to use JPG's of the song music score and display then on a monitor..
A single picture, that will show only the pic when played as a slide show..


Each performance will be named as a song and easy selection (set up) at the push of a button...
then I would/could select the source ..Live, Style, or SMF.

What do you think?

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3 weeks 5 days ago
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BK9 Performances #736
Hi
What do you mean " They would cover the live band, but also sequence play and style play
all with in the same performance.."
Will you be attempting play a sequence that the band members would then play in time to?

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3 weeks 5 days ago
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No, the idea would be to use a single performance setting to work with the band live... or Myself as a single with style play or SMF....based on the name of the song.. tempos would match up.. I would decide (select) the method and play live...style... or SMF..

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3 weeks 5 days ago
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BK9 Performances #741
I'm a bit leery about having Performances for live band use that have all the resources loaded and active for solo use as well (SMF's, audio backing, styles etc.). For two reasons...

Firstly, if the Start button is active, while playing with a live band it is possible to accidentally hit Start, resulting in horrible chaos! Or Key Audio triggers, etc..

Secondly, no band really wants to have you demonstrate (whether accidentally or deliberately!) that you could replace them if you wanted to! Best to not have the temptation to press Play while rehearsing or setting up, etc.! :evil:

So I tend to make sure ALL my live band Performances have the accompaniment Parts muted. I would recommend (if you think this is a good idea) to make a duplicate Performance List for Live use and turn off all the Style Parts, and any Performances with links to audio or SMF backing, re-associate with a style (and mute all the Parts). It's a bit extra work, but it gives you a safety net when playing live and secondly, allows you to tweak for the live band dynamics (which are probably wider than your canned backing) and save without messing with your carefully crafted solo setup.

Here's a little tip for nice synced delays even when playing live, though (good use of delays means ALWAYS being in time with the tempo, whether duple or triplet timed echoes). Always use a tempo synced delay (rather than a non-tempo synced one and setting it by hand to match the style/SMF), then use the tap tempo as the drummer counts in. Nice tempo synced delay, whether he is running a bit fast or slow that day..! Plus usable for a wide variety of songs in varying tempos...

BK-9 BK-7m G70. Kurzweil K2500S, Korg Triton. Samick upright piano. iMac 27", HR824 monitors.

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3 weeks 5 days ago
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BK9 Performances #742
As to linked .JPG's for chart display, personally, if this is a major need, I'd go the iPad and OnSong route (using the sheets in OnSong to call up the correct Performance via USB-MIDI) for a couple of reasons.

Firstly, I think that only 'Songs' can be linked to JPG's (p.73 of the BK-9 manual) by which I think they mean either SMF's and maybe MP-3's (so styles appear out). Secondly, at least from my read-through of the manual, selecting the song in the Performance List does not call up the JPG and it seems to need a wildly shotgunned file structure, making calling up this stuff yourself a far more complicated procedure than calling up a Performance.

Secondly, there is no timing control to change slides if you need multiple sheets for one song.

The FAR better, more flexible and controllable solution would be to use a tablet or iPad app. This way, you could display JPG's, PDF's, .TXT files etc., and set your own way of turning pages over, etc..

Sadly, Roland failed to add a Link between the JPG's and the Performances (doh!) so what could have been a great feature turns out to be an almost useless one (in a live situation, anyway). The combination of Linked JPG's, and Linked Chord Sequences could have made the BK-9 a Yamaha/Korg beater. For the want of a nail... :dry:

BK-9 BK-7m G70. Kurzweil K2500S, Korg Triton. Samick upright piano. iMac 27", HR824 monitors.

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