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Using BK-7m with keytar, help!

1 month 5 days ago 1 month 4 days ago by TedS.
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Using BK-7m with keytar, help! #695
Probably a stupid question, because I've read and re-read the manual. But I know Diki occasionally uses his BK-7m with a keytar, and I might like to do the same.

Is there any way to "lock" the panel controls on the BK-7m, so that it ONLY accepts style changes, voice changes, etc., through MIDI?

So why would I want to do this? Because maybe I would like to stuff the BK-7m in a backpack, with only a MIDI wire and audio cable coming out. If the buttons are pressed accidentally, it will cause an unintentional change to the sound / style.

If there is no menu command, I guess I could build some kind of physical "cover" that keeps the buttons from being pressed. Or even add a belt clip to the back, and wear the BK-7m on my hip. Has anyone done this?? Thanks!!

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Using BK-7m with keytar, help! #697
No, there's no way to do that. Try putting it inside a Tupperware container or something like that, but you'll still need access to the power button... There's no way to leave it switched on physically while the power disconnects. You might also want to check for overheating if you have no ventilation while it works. I'm not sure heat build-up would be a problem, but it's worth checking!

If you intend to use a microphone stand, you might be able to adapt a shelf add-on to put the BK-7m on the stand. Personally, I prefer to have the BK where I can see it while I play my KX-5 (an antique, but still one of the best feeling keytars, IMHO).

Are you going to use this with one of the Roland iPad apps, or GESINI? There is quite a lot of stuff (loading different Performance Sets, for instance) that there is no other way to load these remotely, AFAIK.

Which keytar do you use?

BK-9 BK-7m G70. Kurzweil K2500S, Korg Triton. Samick upright piano. iMac 27", HR824 monitors.

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1 month 5 days ago 1 month 4 days ago by TedS.
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Using BK-7m with keytar, help! #698
I haven't got a keytar yet, but I'm thinking about one.

For the first time in my life, I'm playing with other musicians as accompaniment. Mainly chords and the programmed bass lines (although if I can figure out how to rip off a few melodic licks i would like to do that too.) So far we've been playing in my living room. But the others have portable acoustic instruments, and eventually I'll need to bring my sound to a campfire circle. Warranties aside, I'm confident that I can achieve volume balance with a keytar, a 9V laptop battery and a portable speaker.

Some of the keytars on eBay seem too toylike. The Lucina is pricey, which leaves the Alesis Vortex. But none of these address a fundamental problem... I'm used to playing chords (including specific inversions to control the bassline) with my LEFT hand. And I know I'll continue to play both chords AND melody at home when the others aren't around. So I don't want to confuse my brain by learning to chord familiar songs with my right hand. Thus it might be necessary to build my own portable keyboard instrument with the "neck" on the right

This should be easy to do using a compact MIDI controller(s), guitar strap, and maybe a 1" x 3" for support. Go to YouTube and search for "bass keytar" to see an example of what I have in mind. As long as I can select from a few basic styles/registrations and voices via MIDI presets, I won't need access to the BK after turning it on. Good suggestion on the Tupperware, but I'm pretty sure I'll need to make a custom cover, because the style control buttons could still come in contact with the inside of the container. I think the battery will probably generate more heat than the BK itself.

Maybe I'm crazy- thanks for letting me brainstorm on here. Grateful for any suggestions, just don't tell me to trade my BK for an accordion!

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Using BK-7m with keytar, help! #699
Batteries tend to heat up when they are charging, not discharging...

I tried what you are shooting for a while back. Arranger control with a keytar, while still allowing for solo line stuff too. It's tricky. But Pianist Mode, where you need at least three notes to trigger a new chord (Pianist2 is even better if you use a sustain pedal, allowing for five notes before the new chord) can work well for this. Sadly, a Chord Sequencer would be the most ideal solution, but Roland only saw fit to include it on the BK-9. A mistake, IMHO...

Here's a couple of rough demos, trying it out. A lead guitar sound for playing, then careful (or not so, in places!) use of chords only when you want to change the chord ACC, and stick to one or two notes tops while playing the solo.

Now, with a live band and no need to lead, this is pretty easy with the one hand, but I'd seriously look into an FC-7 for Variation and Fill control while playing, breaks, and maybe Perf.UP/DOWN hands free.

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