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EA 7 midi program change codes

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EA 7 midi program change codes #661
A friend of mine has just bought an EA 7. I had a brief look through his manual, but neither of us can find the midi program change codes. Can some one enlighten me please.

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2 months 2 weeks ago 2 months 2 weeks ago by Willem52.
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EA 7 midi program change codes #662
The Roland E-A7 has a lot of manuals / User Guides, see:
www.roland.com/global/support/by_product/e-a7/owners_manuals/

E-A7_e02_W_EN.pdf , E-A7_MIDI_Implementation_e01_W.pdf ,
E-A7_r_e01W_Reference.pdf , E-A7_Style_Tone_List_e05_W.pdf ,
E-A7_ver2_eng01_W.pdf , E-A7_Waveform_List_e02_W.pdf

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EA 7 midi program change codes #663
Thanks for that. I guess I could look through all those manuals but it’s not even my keyboard. I was just wanting someone who’s done it to post the codes so I could pass them onto my friend.

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EA 7 midi program change codes #667
Well, someone could do that for you, but in principal there are the guides and manuals for in the first place :) .

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2 months 2 weeks ago 2 months 1 week ago by loshk.
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EA 7 midi program change codes #668
Here everything can be understood
Calculate the bank from MSB and LSB (in Tone List) for the NRPN can be using the EXCEL file

File Attachment:

File Name: 74_50.xls
File Size:14 KB

All command: Bn XX XX, Bn XX XX , Cn XX (n - MIDI-channel)

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2 months 1 week ago
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EA 7 midi program change codes #671
Most MIDI programs can send the normal PC/32/00 (MSB/LSB/PC) codes directly, so you may not need to convert to hex first.

Perhaps the OP would mind telling us a bit more about what program he intends to use the codes with..?

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EA 7 midi program change codes #672
As I said originally, I’m doing this on behalf of a friend. I’m hoping eventually that he will go the iPad/OnSong route. Thank you Diki for supplying the info. I appreciate you taking the time to do this.

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EA 7 midi program change codes #679
If going the OnSong route, he won't be sending Tone messages. He'll be sending the codes to call up Performances...

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2 months 1 week ago 2 months 1 week ago by Diki.
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EA 7 midi program change codes #680
But he might also want to contact Roland and strongly oppose the decision to restrict Performance List sizes from 999 (in the BK series) to 100 in the E-A7.

Here's why... If he uses OnSong or any remote program to select Performances, he will have to hand select the correct Performance List from the file menu before the remote program can call up the correct entry. A 999 size List is a practical size to cover someone's entire repertoire (or at least the majority of tunes they regularly perform) but you would be surprised at how fast a mere 100 entries would be used up. Especially if you use more than one Performance to set up different layouts for Verse/Chorus/Solo, etc..

It is utterly baffling why Roland chose to restrict the List's size, particularly when there have been no reported problems with the 999 size one, and the code for it already was written for the BK series. But the fact that it was gives hope that, if enough people complain, there's a chance that Roland may either update the E-A7's OS to allow for the larger Performance List size, or at least go back to the 999 size List on the NEXT Roland arranger...

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2 months 1 week ago
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EA 7 midi program change codes #681
Is there no way to change performance lists via midi? It seems to be a huge backwards step to limit a keyboard in this way.

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EA 7 midi program change codes #682
Actually, there never has been a way to change Lists remotely. Nor do I know of any other keyboard that can do remote control of the basic file system. Calling a Performance is simply calling up data already in the keyboard's memory (you already loaded the List). Loading a List goes all the way back to the basic file storage system.

To be frank, it isn't needed. All that is needed is a return to the system we BK owners already have...

A List large enough that it isn't a big factor.

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EA 7 midi program change codes #683
I know what you are saying, and you have made the comment before that Roland seems to destroy the good aspects they built up when they release a new model. How likely are they to change the software of an existing synth even if lots of users email them? Are they known for listening to their user base?

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EA 7 midi program change codes #684
It kind of depends on the numbers.

About the last arranger they seriously revamped due to user complaints was the G70, generating two completely new OS's (not minor bug fixes and a feature or two). But that was a $3500 TOTL arranger, and it was back in the days when Roland were still competing in the higher priced (and therefore, higher R&D budget) market. Those days seem long gone, with the $1300 E-A7 currently the top keyboard they offer. It doesn't seem likely that a keyboard with that low a profit margin is going to generate much post-release effort.

Thing is, this is a somewhat niche need. Arrangers on the whole tend to be used as standalone products, so I rather doubt many people use apps like OnSong with them, or use them in any kind of remote situation. I honestly don't seem to recall many people with an E-A7 ever posting about this issue here, or even realizing the issue exists.

But Roland have painted themselves into a corner. The odds of regaining their dominance in the arranger market is pretty slim, when each model that comes out seems to do less and less, or does them in such a poorly supported way that the new features are of little use. Obviously, the E-A7's unsupported sampler (no Aira content for YOU, you lowly arranger!) with no common sample import format (they promised soundfont and Roland S series import when first announced) is one of these half hearted efforts, and the same with the multipads. A great (and long asked for) feature with next to no content provided is of little use in the hands of the generally untechnical hands of the average arranger player.

If Roland can't be bothered to fix issues, can't be bothered to provide sufficient content so that what few new features that are added are of little use, if they keep removing features, adding features back, then removing them again (the amazing Chord Sequencer, now a core feature of Korg's despite Roland inventing it), or taking useful features and reducing them to the point of little use, what future do they have?

The E-A7 at its price point is an amazing little arranger. But you could easily drop the sampler and the multipads and it would be little different for the majority of users. And that's the problem in a nutshell... make the new features so crippled, have few users really use them, then drop them again citing how little they were used as the excuse for it!

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