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E-A7 sampler load speed?

3 months 2 weeks ago
Diki
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E-A7 sampler load speed? #660
Anyone using the E-A7 sampler much?

It only has 128MB of memory, a bit dated compared to the 256MB (uncompressed) of the Korg PA700, and definitely well down on the close to GB sized samplers in the TOTL arrangers. But it strikes me, it really doesn't matter how much RAM you have.

It matters how fast you can load it...

So, with that in mind, if anyone is using the sampler much, can you tell us how long it takes to load up a certain amount of data? What's the biggest load you have, how fast does it load? If you have a 128MB sized load, even better!

I will make enquiries about other makes, and we can compare.

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3 months 1 week ago
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E-A7 sampler load speed? #685
Anyone? Seriously, is nobody even using the sampler?

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3 months 6 days ago
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E-A7 sampler load speed? #686
This probably won't be much help, but when I had an E-A7 I had one of the drum packs from Dynamix. It was pretty small but I did notice maybe 2 or 3 seconds longer on the boot time after loading the samples.

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E-A7 sampler load speed? #689
Do you recall the size of the load?

TBH, I'm not so much interested in boot times, but the time for a load in between songs. 128MB isn't a whole lot of RAM, and I was wondering whether loading different sample sets during a set is practical. If it only takes a few seconds, not too bad. But minutes would be impractical.

As a point of reference, my 20 year old Kurzweil K2500 loads at about 1MB/sec. So a full 128 MB load (yes, today's modern E-A7 has no more memory than a 20 year old Kurzweil) was a good 2 minutes to load, so not very practical mid-set. I was curious as to whether 20 years of newer technology, and USB2 speeds from the stick had improved things much..?

One last question... Can the arranger play while loading?

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3 months 4 days ago
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E-A7 sampler load speed? #690
It is only 12 MB it looks like. Actually, I remember now that it took a while to load the first time so maybe it stayed in memory? I am not up to speed on samplers. Maybe someone else will chime in.

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3 months 3 days ago
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E-A7 sampler load speed? #691
If you didn't have to load it every time you started up, then it stayed in a non-volatile RAM area (like many keyboards these days).

I'm rather more interested in using the sampler to load different sections of a backing track (that's an average of 40MB or so per song) so that the sequencer could use Markers on audio chunks (whole verses, choruses, etc.). I tried doing this using the BK-9's Key Audio feature, that reads directly from the USB stick, but there's a 100-200msec+ delay in playing them the first time (the feature is more designed for loops), so there's no way to avoid an audio hiccup when the jump is made. A sampler would not suffer this limitation.

Plus, it is getting harder and harder to find modern sample sets that aren't designed for either computers or much larger samplers. So, sounds that used to fit into 128MB sized samplers and smaller in the 90's are now taking MUCH more memory. Most sampler sound designers nowadays don't really agonize over how many MB the sound takes when computers can play back GB sized samples!

So the time a decent sized load takes is pretty important. When doing studio work with my Kurzweil, I'm often reloading the entire memory to fit the best sounds in for each track. The more you get used to really good sounds, the more of them you want to use all the time!

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3 months 2 days ago
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E-A7 sampler load speed? #693
hello Diki!!!

Man, Ea7 uses flash memory and theres no delay time to load samplers!!! isnt not like my Fantom Xr that uses DIMM memory ram and if you uses more samplers...more time is to load the boot ...etc... in EA7 the tones and drum kits Samplers after imported works like the internal tones.

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E-A7 sampler load speed? #694
by the wat i use all may 128mb whit a lot tones and drums samplers like DYNAMIX and others .

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3 months 2 days ago
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E-A7 sampler load speed? #696
I don't think you quite understood me. I am interested in how long it takes to load up COMPLETE memory changes. I understand that you can load in memory and it resides in non-volatile RAM, so switching between already loaded sounds is instantaneous, but with one single song taking up about 40MB, that's three songs and the memory is full!

Obviously, you want to do more than three songs... So, how long would it take to load in an additional three songs (or one song) and delete the ones already in?

I have elaborate orchestra samples for my Kurzweil (layered strings, solo strings, woodwinds and brass) that take up well over 90MB. If I loaded one of these sounds, then needed something else that took up far more than the remaining memory, I would have to delete the orchestra sound, then load in ANOTHER 90-128MB.

That's the data I'm looking for. I know perfectly well you can take all the time you need to load the sampler if what you use is enough for your whole gig. But if you need to load a different set of samples mid-gig, how long does it take?

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