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G-70 Keyboard
1 week 6 days ago
Ruthie
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G-70 Keyboard #509
Here is one of the floppies that won't open in preview. They are .STL and computer used "preview" so I changed it to iTunes, still wouldn't play. Couldn't use "garageband". Hope I inserted correctly.

File Attachment:

File Name: KF-90002.STL
File Size:35 KB

File Attachment:

File Name: KF-90001.STL
File Size:42 KB

File Attachment:

File Name: KF-90003.STL
File Size:41 KB

File Attachment:

File Name: KF-90004.STL
File Size:31 KB
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1 week 5 days ago 1 week 5 days ago by Willem52.
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G-70 Keyboard #510
Ruthie,

You can not use preview for these files, as they are Roland specific accompaniment files.

I explored the files on my PC with a binary editor and I could see the names as:

KF-90001.STL = OldCap10B-58
KF-90002.STL = YouSen10B-60
KF-90003.STL = SitRig10B-62
KF-90004.STL = AllHav10B-65

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1 week 4 days ago
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Nicely done, Willem!

This seems to solve Ruthie's problem. I'm guessing you use a PC, Willem? I think Ruthie has a Mac, so here is how to do it on a Mac, Ruthie.

Select the file, and right-click on it.
Go to 'Open With'.
Select 'Other...'
Select TextEdit.

A whole page of gobbledegook will open up, but at the very top will be (for KF90002.STL, for instance) 'EVYouSen10B-60'.

Problem solved!

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1 week 4 days ago
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G-70 Keyboard #512
EV and G8 Styles

The first 2 bytes (characters) are giving the originating OS compatibility.
EV from the VA series e.o., G8 would be for the more common Arrangers.

EV styles which use specific features can give also unpredicted results on
Roland Arrangers using the G8 type Styles.

KF-90001.STL and KF-90003.STL give those unpredicted results on the E-80
especially when trying to edit them.

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1 week 4 days ago
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Thanks so much again!! If this works, then can I use the makeup tools, rename the style, then add it to my san disk or internal memory and the same with the Gold styles that Willken52 sent me? Tried to call Roland and, as usual, were busy and I gave up. Both u and Willken52 are really making me use my brain to make this work! LOL But....needless to say love the challenge.

Ruthie

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1 week 4 days ago 1 week 4 days ago by Diki.
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G-70 Keyboard #514
Any clue what those 'unpredictable effects' are, Willem? Maybe we can come up with some sort of standardized fix...

If I remember correctly, the KF series was derived from the V/VA series arrangers. Other than Variphrase elements (which I don't believe the KF had), what other unique style elements could a VA style have to prevent it being played correctly in a G/E series arranger?

I certainly don't recall any issues trying to play V/VA series styles on my G70... It is one of Roland's best strengths, having few issues playing older styles even decades after they were made.

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1 week 4 days ago
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File Attachment:

File Name: KF-90Format.rtf
File Size:5 KB


Hopefully, this will open. Downloaded the KF-90 manual and came up with this??

Ruthie

P.S. Sorry Willem52, kept putting your name in wrong.
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1 week 3 days ago
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No problem, Ruthie.

The unpredicted results on my E-80 were different, from sometimes a few seconds stop of a part,
to really crashing the Arranger O.S. when changing the drumset and/or saving the editted Style.

But still I have no clue what should cause it.

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1 week 3 days ago
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G-70 Keyboard #518
Tell me which style gives you a reproducible play error on your E80, Willem, and I'll test it in my G70 and BK-9.

Are you saying the file plays OK until you try to edit it? Or it just causes problems when playing it?

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1 week 2 days ago
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I will check that out later on, Diki.
I have the whole weekend family over.

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1 week 2 days ago
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No rush, Willem... Le Mans 24 hour on anyway!

'Busy' until the race is over, LOL

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1 week 10 hours ago 1 week 10 hours ago by Willem52.
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G-70 Keyboard #523
KF-90001.STL = OldCap10B-58
After (floppy-) loading this Style the Arranger hangs and must put off and on again.

KF-90003.STL = SitRig10B-62
After (floppy-) loading this Style the Arranger does his own strange thing but not what it should do. I can't explain it. The Arranger is seems totally haywire and must me put off and on again.

KF-90002.STL = YouSen10B-60
KF-90004.STL = AllHav10B-65
These 2 Styles seems not to be 'complete' here? When using e.g. minor or 7th chords the drums are not sounding, the same for some more types of chords.

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1 week 4 hours ago
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G-70 Keyboard #524
Have you tried simply USB-ing them into the 'Put New Styles Here' folder rather than going in via floppy?

And do the hangs still occur once you save the style after opening in Makeup and doing nothing but a save?

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1 week 4 hours ago
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G-70 Keyboard #525
Yes, that I tried the first time. It does not make a difference.
But to prevent database corruption, this time floppy load only.

The Old Cap Style cannot be saved this way.
The SitRig Style does that strange thing with the Arranger and hangs if you try to save or edit.

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6 days 19 hours ago 6 days 19 hours ago by Diki.
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This is not good news for Ruthie!

However, there may be a sort of workaround. The KF, being based on the V/VA series, may very well share styles named the same or very similar with the V/VA series.

If we can find a V/VA series archive of the ROM styles, it is possible Ruthie might be able to use those in the G70 instead of the KF series styles.

I tried a quick look around my archives, but can't currently find the right files. Do you have any V series ROM styles?

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