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G-70 Keyboard
2 months 2 weeks ago
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G-70 Keyboard #470
You might try contacting the dealer you bought the KF from, explain your problem, and see if they will give you the name and number of any other KF customers they had. It's still possible you could ask them to help you out...

Alternatively, try contacting Roland US, explain the issue, and see if they have a solution. Particularly if you tell them you got a G70 to replace it (TBH, if light weight was what you were going for, you certainly picked oner of the heaviest arrangers Roland ever made, LOL), they might be a little more inclined to help out!

I would certainly keep an eye open for a good condition used BK-9 if you continue to have to move your gear around... 20 lbs vs. 45 lbs for the G70! After being a huge G70 fan and user for nearly 10 years, I can state definitively I find the BK-9 better in many, many ways, and far lighter to carry! The Chord Sequencer alone is worth the price of admission..! It still has a 76 note action (but not quite as nice as the G70's).

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2 months 2 weeks ago
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G-70 Keyboard #471
Hi, again Willem52, WOW, that was so kind of u to go to that kind of trouble......but guess what.......I found the top ones in the internal memory in the custom area of my keyboard. Dumb me, had no idea how they got there when I had run across a few of them. But it makes sense now. Thanks a bunch!! Couldn't find any of the "Gold" called styles anywhere but that's ok I bought it 1-19-07 in San Antonio, TX. Was wintering in Apache Junction, AZ at the time. I'm from Springfield, MO. I'm thankful to know that, indeed, my update was done right. Now, if I can just learn to do some technical adjustments I will be on my way. I know how to record, change instruments in the left hand etc. and I then record a CD on my Tascam.

Anyway, thanks a bunch for your input. Is VERY much appreciated.

Ruthie

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2 months 2 weeks ago
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Thanks a million for your thoughts and very excellent ones for sure. The place I got my KF-90 from on Jan. 21, 2001 is no longer in business so no luck there. I think I mislead u on my position now. We are no longer entertainers so I'm not having to move our gear. My husband had a stroke a year and a half ago so our travels are over. He can't drive and I can't drive our 40' Travel Supreme motorhome, WOW it's big, LOL, so my spare time is spent recording CDs for family. I love, love music and it brings me joy to be able to shut everything out and lose myself in my music.

Anyway, enough of that. Had the idea of using the floppies but since it didn't work out, I will continue to get even more familiar with the G-70. That's a challenge I need and hope to accomplish. I may still call upon u when I run into some issues on tweaking my songs. Wish me luck!! LOL

Thanks again for all your time and knowledge, is appreciated.

Ruth

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2 months 2 weeks ago
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G-70 Keyboard #473
It might not hurt to put a post in at the Synthzone General Arranger forum www.synthzone.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/f...ranger_Keyboard_Foru ...

There might be someone there with access to a KF. They are a pretty helpful lot!

In the meantime, yes, of course please feel free to ask any G70 related questions. Please post each one in a separate thread (if a separate issue), so that others seeking answers can easily find the thread.

There ARE some things I miss from the G70, that amazing action (buttery smooth yet solid feeling... IMHO the best semi-weighted action ever made), the extra UPR and LWR Parts, the touch screen, the expanded Tone Family buttons (the BK's only have 10 Tone family buttons, so there's a lot more hunting for sounds than the G70 had), and I now have to use an external Harmonizer (mind you, I hardly ever use VH, but my external TC Helicon VK-Perform does tap echo, which is a function I really use a lot and the G70 only had reverb, AFAIK).

If you are going to use a bunch of your older styles from the KF (and there are plenty of great G1000 and VA series styles out there as well), one of the first functions I would get familiar with is the Makeup Tools. Pretty simple to work with, but amazingly powerful too. Not only can you edit the sound for each Style Part, but you can also edit and change each sound inside the Drum Part.

I'd also mess around with the Cover Tools, if I were you. With this, you can (with one button) change a style's entire soundset from say rock electric instruments to jazz acoustics. It's a great tool for taking styles you sort of like but are too modern sounding, and making them more oldies friendly.

You have some fun times in store... you are working with the best made Roland arranger they ever produced! The BK series is certainly a step forward in capabilities, but the case and action and buttons and screen definitely took a hit. But then again, they are at least $1200-2500 cheaper! I guess you get what you pay for..! :evil:

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2 months 2 weeks ago
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G-70 Keyboard #475
Here you can download the Gold Styles package:
roland-arranger.com/media/kunena/attachm...0_V2-Gold-Styles.zip

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2 months 2 weeks ago
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G-70 Keyboard #476
Thank u so very much for the "Gold" styes. I downloaded them to a floppy and inserted into my G-70 and they worked GREAT!! Love the sounds. So nice to have some different ones to work with. Have one question. I want to copy them from the floppy disk to the internal memory b/c I have only 22 in there and if I want to tweak any of them I don't have to go thru the work and work thing with the floppies loading. Now, my question is, shouldn't I unlock the floppies before I copy them in my G-70 in order to be able to tweak any of the new styles? I locked the floppies after downloading and when I tried to do a hold on the bass it said I couldn't b/c it was locked and I understand why. Think I answered my own question but want to confirm that I do need to unlock the floppies before I copy and put in the internal memory.

Thanks loads!

Ruthie

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2 months 2 weeks ago
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G-70 Keyboard #477
Many thanks again, Diki, I have been using both the "Style Makeup Tools" and the "Style Cover" on all of my tweaks but, however, actually, forgot how good the "Style Cover" tool is and have been experimenting with it just this past week. I'm going to start another subject on the "Freeze Data" b/c that's not really clear on how that works. Guess I'm really not thru with your forum yet! LOL Anyway, it has been quite an education for me after all these years and do appreciate your continued interest in helping me.

Ruthie

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G-70 Keyboard #479
If you would like to edit the Styles on floppy media, you must unlock the floppydisk.
However, it is a bad idea to do that in this way, because a floppydisk is slow and
also soon prone to errors. Copy the Styles over e.g. to the internal or external
memorycard (if you have one in the Roland G-70) by using the USB and computer.

You should copy the Styles to the "Put New Styles Here" folder of the Arranger.

See the manual: Page 210 and following pages for the procedure.

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2 months 2 weeks ago
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I will see if my portable computer will work in my music room to use that combination. I can't move the keyboard to my computer room by myself since my husband had his stroke. And moving my IMac would be a mess since it's plugged into so many things and he's can't remember how to do things and I can't afford to screw it up which I'm prone to do at times! LOL Anyway, will see if about the above and go from there. I may be stuck with the floppies as they are but that's ok. Love the sounds.

Thanks again for your help!

Ruthie

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2 months 2 weeks ago
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G-70 Keyboard #484
The tab on the floppy is only there to prevent accidental writing TO the floppy. You do not need to open it to copy stuff FROM the floppy.

I would definitely read up in the manual how to copy from the floppy to the internal memory, do it one time, and then toss the floppies (after you have backed up your G70 memory, of course!).

Is your laptop PC or Mac? Read Chapter 17 of the manual. What OS are you using?

Be aware, there is no folder structure inside the Styles folder (and remember, NEVER put styles in there yourself, always use the 'Put New Styles Here' folder when adding from a computer, otherwise the database won't show them). So, keep a good track of what you are throwing in there in case you want to pull it back out. You run the risk of erasing styles that you have used and then you will get the dreaded 'File not found' message! :woohoo:

I used to backup my Styles folder to the computer any time I wanted to try out a bunch of new styles, then all I had to do to restore everything the way it was was replace the new Styles folder with the old one, and all was good again!

Also, be aware, the Internal memory area of the G70 is only about 50MB or so. Throw in a TON of styles just to audition them, and then don't erase the ones you don't need, you can quickly use up all the memory (particularly as all the G70's ROM data has to be in there as well), so it wouldn't hurt to get a Card for the back slot.

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2 months 1 week ago
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Ok, here goes. I don't need to open the tab on floppy to copy, so if I understand this correctly, I can copy my floppies to my User Program instead of from computer to keyboard? FYI, my internal memory has just about everything I have on my User Program SanDisk, Compact Flash PC Card Adapter which is a 2GB and I have 1,918,132kb left on it. FYI, my internal memory has 34, 480 kb left on it. A lot of what is on the internal memory, along with my own styles, are the original styles and a lot of the MA styles. Probably resulted when I was just learning the keyboard. Unless if I can copy directly to my UPG and not lose the original styles on the left side of the keyboard, I would love to just copy the floppies to my UPG. There are just 15 styles that Willkem52 sent me. When u talk about backing up my styles, essentially they are already backed up on my UPG disk, yes? There's nothing in the internal memory that would be an issue it those went away, unless, of course, it would wipe out the original styles that comes with the G-70. That's my confusion. Right now, I have 1007 styles on my internal memory, which is pretty much all on my disk which has a lot of the original styles and MA styles in it and have 1083 styles in the UPG disk which there again have a lot of the original styles and MA styles on it as well. I hope u get what I'm trying to say here. Just trying to avoid the computer to keyboard if it is at possible. Thanks again for your continued help.

Ruthie

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2 months 1 week ago
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I'm not quite sure you have grasped the G70 memory concept yet, Ruthie.

Styles get stored in the Styles folder in either the Internal or Card memory (after you put them in the 'Put new styles here' folder and the G70 catalogs them in its database, converts STH floppy styles into STY normal styles, and updates its database to show you the new styles).

They don't appear in a UPG until you create one. Which then doesn't appear in a UPS until you add it, or create a fresh one.

At some point or another, you are going to HAVE to connect your G70 to your laptop (it's easy, don't panic!) so that you can backup your Internal and Card memories. But you can probably get away with doing this only after you have done some significant new work that you don't want to risk losing if you have a memory meltdown. But given that you have done all that work putting in your styles etc., the sooner the better.

Databases CAN corrupt, memory cards CAN go bad (or lose the database). Only copying your entire G70 memory to a computer ensures that, if the worst happens, you are still in good shape.

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2 months 1 week ago
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G-70 Keyboard #503
I believe the KF90 is the same format as the VA series

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2 months 1 week ago
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G-70 Keyboard #506
Thanks Fran, appreciate your input. As u can tell I'm going back and forth with adding .STLs from Willkem52 done on his E80 without backing up on my G-70. Which when copying them u have to tell it which VA to use. Have a ton of styles from my KF-90 I wanted to add to my G-70 but those floppies didn't have the style name or song which I played with it, so really in vein to use them. Son has the KF-90 in Oregon, me from MO, so not easy to run them thru the KF-90 and the floppy was broken when he got it.
Anyway, thanks so much for the time and attention to my issue.

Ruthie

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2 months 1 week ago
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Member trebleclef was looking at a used VA-7 to replace his BK-3.

Perhaps you can contact him and see if he bought it? If his floppy drive is working, you might be able to send him the files from your floppies via email, he sticks them on floppies at his end, then tries to read them in the VA.

If you like, as well, Ruthie, try sending me a style via email and I will take a look at it and see if your info you need is hidden in the file somewhere.

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