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BK-9 church/classical organ Tones 0187-0194

1 month 3 days ago 1 month 3 days ago by Mitzie. Reason: typo
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BK-9 church/classical organ Tones 0187-0194 #302
I'm a church organist whose just bought an E-A7. -WOW Roland keyboards are musician's keyboards !

I really would appreciate it if it is possible to send me these BK-9 classical pipe organ voices, not found on my E-A7 (Tones 0187 to 0194 inclusive) as a download to load into my E-A7

Many thanks

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1 month 2 days ago
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BK-9 church/classical organ Tones 0187-0194 #304
It is i.m.h.o. not possible to export internal sampled tones to use them to import elsewhere.

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BK-9 church/classical organ Tones 0187-0194 #305
Thank you for your reply. - Most arrangers allow the export of Tones as User Tones via USB ?

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BK-9 church/classical organ Tones 0187-0194 #307
I haven't any idea how other brands support "user tones", but sampled instruments are different.

On a Roland Arranger we can change tones by combining instruments, using filters and effects.
These changes can be put in e.g. the so called User Programs.
It should be explained in the User- and Reference Manuals.

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BK-9 church/classical organ Tones 0187-0194 #308
Thanks again for your comments, but I am still confused?

My E-A7 manual -Page 33 talks about loading and exporting tones via USB and other BK arranger manuals mentions how to and load export user performance files (which can include tones) ?

I would be grateful if you could explain further.
Thanking you

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BK-9 church/classical organ Tones 0187-0194 #309
The E-A7 is the only Roland Arranger sofar with sample memory which can be used
as User Tones (Sounds) and also saved in Performance Memories.

Those can be used e.g. with the sample pads. Perhaps that someone with access to
a Roland E-A7 can better explain it further. With use of an USB stick sample content
can be loaded and used.

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BK-9 church/classical organ Tones 0187-0194 #310
Thank you Willem52

I will await any comments from other forum E-A7 users following you latest post. I have also fired off an email to RolandUK for their comments which I will post in the forum for everybodys' benefit

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1 month 1 day ago
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BK-9 church/classical organ Tones 0187-0194 #312

Mitzie wrote: Thanks again for your comments, but I am still confused?

My E-A7 manual -Page 33 talks about loading and exporting tones via USB and other BK arranger manuals mentions how to and load export user performance files (which can include tones) ?


I am afraid your parentheses assumption is completely wrong. Performance files do NOT include sample data for Roland arrangers.

All Roland arrangers prior to the E-A7 have only ROM tones, and the sample data is completely inaccessible.

I would suggest a search for soundfont church organ sounds, where you can extract the raw .WAV data and use that to create your own church organ sounds.

No arranger allows its own ROM sounds' waveform data to be exported (to prevent piracy) via USB or any other method. If you are making the effort to contact your local Roland headquarters, perhaps you might be better served asking them why Roland have made ZERO content for the E-A7, despite giving away for free a quite extensive set of sounds for the FA series. Roland made quite a powerful little arranger in the E-A7, but have completely bailed on making ANY content for its sampler and its multipad system. But have extensively supported the FA series...

Hardly the way to sell a lot of them, wouldn't you agree?

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BK-9 church/classical organ Tones 0187-0194 #314
Thank you diki for such a detailed explanation -this now explains a lot about the differences of Roland arrangers........ So if I've understood correctly what you say, sampling and obtaining other WAV samples is the only way to otain these particular distinctive BK9 organ tones Nos 187 -194 or something similar ?

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BK-9 church/classical organ Tones 0187-0194 #320
Doing your own sampling, unless already experienced in this black art (particularly given how small the E-A7's 128MB of sample memory is) is probably going to be an exercise in frustration...

Have you considered using an iPad or laptop and using some of the excellent VSTi and iOS organ apps and just MIDI'ing into the E-A7?

But if you are determined to keep it all inside the E-A7, perhaps Google church organ soundfonts and see what floats your boat..!

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BK-9 church/classical organ Tones 0187-0194 #321
Thank you Diki and Willem52 for your answers and suggestions

I am much clearer in my mind now, of what can and can't be achieved regarding Roland tones and the limitations of sampling with this 'Expandable' arranger.

Yes I have coupled up an old Casio keyboard and laptop in the past and played virtual organs like Miditzer and Heuptwerk , but there is nothing like having a range of pipe organ timbres set up and saved 'inside' the instrument especially when 'gigging'

There are many mixed reviews about the pipe organ sound fonts and VSTs that are currently on the market.

Most keyboards on the market don't seem to have the more subtle tones that I am seeking to create. -They seem to always sample full organ or perhaps an organ flute. The BK9 in this instance had some rare tones , with which I though I could mix (layer) to achieve these more subtle effects

I've no knowledge or experience of the Roland FA synths and from what you intimate the available WAV samples would not be compatible with the E-A7 even if such pipe organ sounds were available from Roland ?

You must be asking why I bought an arranger not a digital organ? I play both the BK-5 and E-A7 with a Nord key-27 midi pedalboard and the E-A7 UP1, UP2 and LWR sliders enable me to control volume levels and balance which is why I chose the E-A7

However, there are times when I like a change and prefer to play songs in 'one man band style' using the auto accompaniment and using just one keyboard.

Hope this explains where I am coming from, in this my first post to the forum. I haven't had a reply to my enquiry to Roland UK ...from past experience they may not even reply but that's to you gents' I am a little wiser

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BK-9 church/classical organ Tones 0187-0194 #326
Just curious, but have you actually heard those BK-9 church organ sounds, or are you after them simply to audition them?

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BK-9 church/classical organ Tones 0187-0194 #329
A bit of both really.

I like experimenting and mixing (layering) pipe organ sound to see what can be achieved then saving them to build up a dedicated 'stop' list in the arranger

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