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Korg PA-1000 & PA-700 02 Sep 2017 00:48 #6232

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www.korg.com/us/products/synthesizers/pa1000/

www.korg.com/us/products/synthesizers/pa700/

Prices are $1999 and $1299 respectively. The 1000 gets the tilting screen from the PA4X. Both models have a chord sequencer and a MIDI to style converter. I wonder if Roland will be releasing anything to compete with these?
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Korg PA-1000 & PA-700 02 Sep 2017 01:38 #6233

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I Hope it will a motivation for Roland, and they need to take a good look ad the specs of these korg....
there are some damm good thing on it . and $2000 is a affordable price... but sadly it's a 61 key
Roland can do a better price on a upgrade BK9 say BK10 or even better to fit al kind of keyboard players (e-piano,organ,v-accordion,keytar,synth,ect..) a arranger-module as a BK7m upgrade

OOPS I SAY HOPE AGAIN
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It will be interesting to see if Roland continues the BK series or the EA series or both. At this point, we have no idea of their intentions. :)
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Korg PA-1000 & PA-700 02 Sep 2017 20:12 #6236

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Roland, if you take a look at their websites, seem oblivious to anything but synths and dot com kids' toys.

Personally, I think we are looking at Roland's end game when it comes to high end arrangers. That the E-A7 got such shockingly poor content for its sampler and multi-pads pretty much explains the depth of their commitment... :evil:

However, caveat emptor... I have worked a fair bit with Korg's, and find the OS quite complex compared to Roland, especially the need to load banks in in advance (for all their hoopla about 'Direct Access', it ended up being nothing of the sort!) for styles and SMF's, sounds etc.. Roland's 'read everything immediately off the USB stick' system works amazingly well and is a piece of cake to operate. You essentially have over 64GB of content immediately accessible (depending on the size of your stick). That counts a lot in my book. B)
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Roland still has much to recommend it and I'll be sticking with them for the time being. It would be nice to know they are going to stay in the arranger business though. With the BK9 discontinued and the BK5/3 being around five years old, something should show up soon I would think. But time will tell.
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Korg PA-1000 & PA-700 03 Sep 2017 04:39 #6238

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If Roland never make another arranger, I'll be happy until the end of my career playing the BK-9 as long as it holds up.

But I will probably buy two or three benders for it and a set of faders. Other than that, it has withstood 4-6 gigs a week for the last three years without an issue. Probably good to go for a decade more, which puts it in the same boat as me! :evil:

For what I want out of an arranger, it does it all. Personally, I sometimes shake my head and wonder about people always obsessed with the NEXT arranger. What is it about their playing that what they have is not sufficient? Personally, I think practice and working hard on technique and repertoire makes FAR more of a difference to how happy you are playing than the latest, greatest piece of hardware you are going to be ignoring and looking forward to the NEXT one in a couple of years.

There are guitar players perfectly happy with a guitar for 50 years+! Don't get so hung up in what's NEXT... I am willing to bet that you aren't using 100% of what you have NOW. Until you are, you still have stuff to learn and ways to sound better... without needing a new arranger! B)
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You make a good point that everyone should explore the features of whatever model they have to the fullest. I am in the process of doing that (given my limited abilities) with my EA-7. I would still feel better knowing that they were staying in the arranger business so if I want (for whatever reason) to upgrade I have that option without changing companies and having to learn a new system. You mention that you will stay with the BK9 as long as it holds up, but what if it doesn't due to your heavy gig schedule? They are few and far between on Ebay (for whatever reason) I checked lately. Also, you have the issue of support and upgrades. If they get out of the business, that will dry up pretty quick. Anyway, it is my opinion that I would prefer Roland stay in the arranger business for my own peace of mind. But I will check out the other companies too just in case.
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The BK-9 is completely outside any window of upgrade path. So there's that taken care of! Roland support all their keyboards for as long as they have spares (hence my willingness to buy some spare levers and sliders, the most likely thing to fail) so, there's that taken care of.

I have had at LEAST ten years of trouble-free use of all my Roland arrangers going back to the 80's (I tend to keep stuff a long time!), my G1000 went 13 years on beach gigs and looked close to new when I sold it (I baby my gear, only move in hard cases and do regular maintenance myself). So there's that taken care of. I also know of someone local with a barely used BK-9 that I can probably buy if my current one gets stolen or unfixable. So there's that taken care of!

Honestly, if the thought of needing to move to another OS in ten years or so worries you at your age, kudos! I will cross that bridge if I EVER get to it! :evil:

If what you have makes you happy, run with it! B)
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In my humble opinion, I see that with every launch of the korg PA line and the Yamaha PSR line they show stability of their products, while Roland that does not hold a series even, a year is VA, G, E, GW, Prelude , Bk, EA .... what will be next?
Roland discontinued the Bk-9 abandoning its development and promises of new tones, its last Italian, left early and bringing many uncertainties about the company.
in 2015 launched the EA-7, an intermediate that had everything to be a great acquisition, but came with internal timbres equal to the BK-5 line, which are inferior to the BK-9, even those timbres bearing the same name, for example: accordeon Fr.
I consider the sound engine of the EA-7 even lower than that of the GW-8.
With this decadent sequence, in my point of view, either Roland brings something good to his next arranger or he can give up this category here in Brazil.
I myself will be a Roland lover I will have to migrate, possibly to Korg, if she disappoints me once more.
this is my opinion

greetings from Brazil
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Korg PA-1000 & PA-700 11 Sep 2017 20:47 #6245

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What do you expect from an arranger that costs over $1000 LESS than the BK-9?! :evil:

Honestly, so9me people's expectations bear little relationship to reality! :dry:
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Diki wrote:
What do you expect from an arranger that costs over $1000 LESS than the BK-9?! :evil:

Honestly, so9me people's expectations bear little relationship to reality! :dry:

Diki, noble colleague, I do not really expect anything from Roland in the arranger business.
the issue is not in the price of the EA-7 being $ 1000 less than the Bk-9, but it's in the fact that I reported it. Look at the sequence of Roland's arranger keyboards and tell me if it's an issue up or down.
There is no way to "hide the sun with the sieve", as the saying goes, Roland is dwindling.
My speculations may not match the reality of Roland, but they fit the reality of the evolution of Korg and Yamaha, especially in the last 10 years, unlike what is happening in Roland's increasingly weak releases.
Is this out of reality?
Is it just me who is watching this?

Yes, speaking in evolution, Yahama is already releasing Teasers from GENOS, substitute of the Tyros 5 ...

and Roland ??? :unsure: :dry: :huh: :(
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Is it just me who is watching this?

No I'm with you.....
it's a shame that Roland who invent a lot off new technology , And they are absolute not willing to bring this together into a useful well developed device's we hope for!
they bring us new technology quickly drop as useless gadgets .
"Hallelujah" to Diki and his BK9 but I strongly get the feeling he can't think out of the box anymore ,and more and more he named us idiots...at the first-place and later he write about ROLAND with 101 "devil" icons .
Sorry Diki but what's your relationship to reality!
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Korg PA-1000 & PA-700 12 Sep 2017 00:31 #6248

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I agree, Roland is a disappointment!
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Korg PA-1000 & PA-700 12 Sep 2017 05:38 #6250

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I always had Roland s, and I'll always have Rolands. My old E-68 and D-10 are still kicking after 21 years

If I look back to those days when I had a D-10 with an MC-50 MkII sequencer, that poor D-10 was max ed out on multiple occasions when some of the newer SMF's came out later on, poor thing had only 32 polyphony. I remember the drum machine, you could program only one measure, I had like 2 FILLS that I programmed and I used for all the songs.

Now my BK-9 has MP3/Wave player, on-board sequencer, programmable styles, 1700 tones, 500 some rhythms, pedal connection, microphone input, chord sequencer, audio keys, video control and yari yari yari...

Is there anything to complain about? I think not.

All I can say " Thank you Roland ! ",
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I can think of something to complain about. While the mic input is a wonderful thing the fact that it doesn't have a dedicated output is a real problem. Perhaps you live in a world where your keyboard goes out the PA system, but I don't. My keyboard goes to the keyboard a.mp. Therefore the microphone input is useless. I have found it very frustrating. The input is so wonderful and the tone quality is great the Effexor fabulous but I just can't use it half the time.
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With the imminent release of the Yamaha Genos, which is expected to use Montage technology, Roland will be that much further behind in the arranger market unless they have some new releases in the pipeline.
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Current street price for a Roland E-A7 is $1299US It is currently (due to the fact that the BK-9 seems pretty much unavailable except from old stock) the most expensive arranger Roland make.

Tell me a single arranger that has a mic OUT at any price..? Yes I live in a world where the output of my arranger goes DIRECTLY to the PA. So do a lot of arranger players. There is no mic OUT on a $3500 Korg PA4x. If your keyboard amp sounds so bad you can't use it with a mic, perhaps it is time for a better quality amp? :evil:

The Genos will probably be in the same ballpark price as the T5, so $4000+...

It's about time you folks started acknowledging that Roland departed the TOTL arranger market. But dollar for dollar, I'll put the E-A7 up against anything Korg or Yamaha make AT THE SAME PRICE POINT. And I still think the BK-9 gives any mid-priced arranger a run for the money.

What about making a list of features on Roland's the other's don't have yet? Like easy access to ALL your data from one USB stick. No preloading anything. Korg and Yamaha users have been crying out for that for years. How about instant load of audio loops for the Key Audio feature on BK-9's? Nothing like that on Y&K.

If the grass is always greener over the hill, trust me, you will be as unsatisfied with anything else.

Make some MUSIC, quit complaining..!
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Diki,

My comments are more about the future of Roland and their arranger division. Your point about the Roland features that Yamaha and Korg doesn't have is well taken. And I agree that the BK-9 and E-A7 are great arrangers. But where is Roland headed-that is my concern. If they keep making MOTL arrangers at least, that may be enough for my needs. But most of the innovations appear to be coming from the competition.
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billtracy wrote:
Diki,

My comments are more about the future of Roland and their arranger division. Your point about the Roland features that Yamaha and Korg doesn't have is well taken. And I agree that the BK-9 and E-A7 are great arrangers. But where is Roland headed-that is my concern. If they keep making MOTL arrangers at least, that may be enough for my needs. But most of the innovations appear to be coming from the competition.

I agree with you.
Roland is slower and slower in the arranger business. :(
I do not expect anything else, as I said.
I'll stick with my BK-9 and EA-7 because despite their limitations, they do their job. meanwhile the price of Pa4x is falling and I buy one in the future.
Note: If the Bk-9 has the Sampler / User tone & Drum editor / 3 Uppers / Pads functions the same as it does in the EA-7, adding to everything the Bk-9 has the best, it would cost almost nothing to Madame Roland and would make a keystroke very happy.
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I agree that there are many simple things that could be added to an existing BK-9 to make it FAR better.

I would like a transposing Chord Sequencer, and a Link between a stored Chord Sequencer and a Performance. Easy to add, massively useful
I would like a Link between a stored .JPG and a Performance (or even better, a series of JPG's labeled pic1/pic2/pic3, etc. so they could be stepped through with a F/S for multiple page charts!) which would give us scanned charts and lyrics for style mode (currently, Roland is the ONLY major arranger maker without a lyric solution for style mode :angry: ). Easy to add, massively useful.
I'd like fader control of the Makeup Tools Parts, like the G/E series had.
I'd like fader control of more than just volume for the parts (like the G/E series had :angry: )
I'd like a larger selection of Tones and sounds for the D-Beam (ideally, any sound!). (Be nice to have cymbal crashes or even better, layered kick and cymbal to do odd accents)
I'd like free selection of Part assignments, so we could have 3UPR/LWR, 3UPR/MBS, 2UPR/2LWR, 1UPR/3LWR, 1UPR/2LWR/MBS or whatever we need. These arbitrary restrictions on how the Parts can be divided is unnecessary. I miss layering 2 LWR Parts in a split, something the BK-9 is incapable of (without a convoluted sys-ex workaround). Easy to do, Massively useful.
I'd like the '1 MFX per Part' system from the Roland Workstations!

But the E-A7's sampler and its Multipad system? :dry:

Why would I want something that has no content, and no easy way to create content? :ohmy: Until Roland dramatically improves both these features, they aren't worth complaining that they aren't in any other Roland arranger yet!

As I said, there is MUCH in Roland's OS that Y&K have yet to catch up with... Neither of them have anything even NEAR as easy to use as the Makeup Tools for quick and easy style and SMF editing. Not even close! And try syncing audio loops to a style in a Korg... I hope you have plenty of hair to tear out! :evil:

There's an education to be had by going to the forums of arrangers you DON'T have, and listening to THEIR complaints. There are just as many if not more issues they have than we do! Imagine that you had a 1000+ entry Songbook with a PA3X, and found you had to redo it ALL because the PA4X had completely changed its style storage system! Imagine you had bought a PA4X because you believed the ad copy for 'Direct Access' styles, only to find out you could not access ANY style in your collection instantly from the Songbook (their version of a Performance List)..! Imagine you wanted a 76 Tyros that wasn't the size of an aircraft carrier!

Like I said, if you can't be satisfied and make great music on a Roland, I doubt you will be happy for long on anything else. The latest Roland's are modern marvels, capable of utterly blowing away the previous generation, and, IMHO, capable of making music as good as any other.

IF...

You spend the time to learn and master them.

Let's be honest here... How many of you are even USING the Key Audio feature? How many have mastered the Chord Sequencer or use the Mark/Jump feature much? How many use the iPad apps to ease Performance creation and reorder Performance Lists? How many use the Style Creator to reassemble styles, let alone create brand new ones?

Dig in! There's much to learn!

Yes, Roland could easily make new arrangers. But face it... If they did, would you buy it without having explored your current one completely? And moving to another make would still leave you with unexplored possibilities. And that attitude will permeate your NEXT keyboard, leaving you unsatisfied and waiting for THEIR 'next, best thing'...
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The boys are not complaining, they are just venting :)

Since you added Diki the stuff that you'd like in the BK-9, here is what I'd like to have, the G-70's touch screen, and the vocal harmonizer.
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Diki forget that the BK9 is no longer for sale! (discontinued)
And again, Roland lets its keyboard-arranger customers be unsure whether they can go further in the time that one wants innovation or is needed for replacement!
Roland has never given the guarantee by continue developing on a specific model ( no g-2000 or no G80 or no BK10 into average steps of +/- 5 years)
like doing Yamaha and Korg.
At the moment, we are again without a offer from Roland in the line of the BK9.
Next week Yamaha will introduced the new GENOS arranger keyboard
I'm sure this will be a success. and blow-out the whole arranger competition.
I don't want a Yamaha or Korg, I want continue With the Roland sound,but if Roland not give me a choice they will loose a customer! i think they will loose us all.
You don't need a replacement/upgrade every 5 years. But after 5 to +/- 10 years you will be sure that there is something still available on the market to continue
with!!!

Into a short conclusion! If Roland had introduced a BK10 (for example) after discontinued the BK9 then we won't have this discussion complain about our future with Roland instruments
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As I said, short of a complete melt-down (and I mentioned I know of someone with a nearly unused BK-9 I could replace it with) I see no need for 'further innovation'...

My BK-9 does the job. So does yours. :evil:

If as much angst and venting were placed in your playing skills as the equipment you all play on, I'm sure FAR more progress would be made by all of us as to being a better performer and musician! No amount of technology will make the same stuff you play sound better. But PLAYING better pays off no matter how old the equipment you play on!

I didn't hear any replies to the question were we all USING what we have to 100% of its capabilities...?!

If you cannot find a challenge in mastering what you already have, you will find no challenge in the NEXT arranger, or the arranger after that, or.......

Take a look at what some of the REALLY great players play... It is rarely the latest thing. Often it is 20-30 years old. Old Korg stage pianos. Old Fantom WS's... Old Moog's. Old B3's....

I wonder why THEY aren't venting about new gear?! :woohoo:
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Firstly, Diki, Attila and others who are faithful supporters of Roland, regardless of whether he is showing weakness in the arrangers. Let me once again disagree with you.
before, I want to make it clear that I am also user of arrangers Roland and so I WANT TO KEEP. I have the Bk-9, the EA-7 and the E-80 and no other brand at home, except an old, broken yamaha organ.
Now we come to my point of view.

Diki wrote:
As I said, short of a complete melt-down (and I mentioned I know of someone with a nearly unused BK-9 I could replace it with) I see no need for 'further innovation'...

That your answer, Diki, is very individual, and can not be a reference for ALL consumers. I myself have no neighbor or someone who has a Bk9 seminovo waiting for the day of my break and be able to replace it. And I'm sure this will never be a valid argument for defending the premature discontinuity of a keyboard.

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If as much angst and venting were placed in your playing skills as the equipment you all play on, I'm sure FAR more progress would be made by all of us as to being a better performer and musician! No amount of technology will make the same stuff you play sound better. But PLAYING better pays off no matter how old the equipment you play on!

I didn't hear any replies to the question were we all USING what we have to 100% of its capabilities...?!

If you cannot find a challenge in mastering what you already have, you will find no challenge in the NEXT arranger, or the arranger after that, or.......

Take a look at what some of the REALLY great players play... It is rarely the latest thing. Often it is 20-30 years old. Old Korg stage pianos. Old Fantom WS's... Old Moog's. Old B3's....

I wonder why THEY aren't venting about new gear?! :woohoo:

Once again I see him relying on the old argument: "what counts is the skill of the keyboardist, not the keyboard."
Excuse me, but this is an excuse for anyone who is using material that is becoming obsolete while competitors are racing ahead releasing new arrangers with more technology and improvements.
I would even say that this kind of argument is appealing when there are no more arguments.
When we adopt a brand, we want it to be the best, or at least be running along with the best technological advances, regardless of whether or not I buy the most expensive keyboard from it, but new releases and modernities demonstrate growth and strength of a company. this is great for us consumers and users.
I'd love to hear here, especially from Diki, how much the Roland arrangers are ahead of their competitors.

When you say, "If you can not find a challenge by mastering what you already have, you will not find any challenges in the NEXT arrangement, or the arranger after that, or ......."
I'm just sorry to hear this from you because it calls into question the ability of Roland users to master the keyboards they have, all this to defend the weakness company.
I call it "Fanboy" who takes this position. "Fan boy" is that Fan face of a brand that defends it with nails and teeth even though it is underneath.

Anyway, this conversation at every step only shows how orphaned we are. :(

If we were well served for sure the conversation here would be another, without doubt the speech of Diki, Attila and other would be quite another.

This I can guarantee.

greetings from Brazil
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I am 62 and I hope to live another 20 years although that is beyond my control. But obviously, if Roland is getting out of the arranger business (which is an unknown) or at least not developing their product line to the extent of the other major players, at some point I am going to switch brands. If they stay in and continue making great arrangers I may stick with them. As far as buying something you may not actually need, that is human nature. My wife just bought a new car. She didn't need it but she could afford it so...
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I'm sorry I don't follow the conventional wisdom of the arranger crowd. For starters, I have always managed to eschew the 'latest thing' throughout my entire arranger using experience, preferring to wait for a quantum leap in arranger technology and sound rather than the steady drip, drip, drip of incremental improvements. Usually, I seem to be on a ten year plus cycle (my G1000 lasted 13 years before replacement). By doing this, for starters, I get intimately familiar with all the features. Rather than constantly learning new systems for doing the same stuff (remember, as Roland users, we are usually faced with a total redesign each model, including new nomenclature and OS, rather than Yamaha's system of very little change at all) I can navigate with speed and ease through editing and operational functions. This lets me concentrate on the MUSIC, not the technology of producing it...

I also have a tendency to want to leverage my entire repertoire to use whatever new sounds and features I get each time I migrate. This is a fairly herculean task, one which I would prefer to not have to do every two or three years! I have a sneaking suspicion that many Yamaha users, facing such continuity between models, tend to simply import their existing Songbook/Performance Lists and tend to sound pretty much the same despite forking out thousands for new arrangers! And, from reading the furor over at Korg because of the redesign of the memory structure which forced all PA3X>PA4X migrators to HAVE to do exactly that, I think the expectation at Korg was pretty similar (they had no issues migrating from PA2>PA3).

As to being a 'fanboy' for Roland, nothing could be less true. I own Kurzweil gear, Korg gear, and use VSTi's extensively. But Roland's 'sound' has always been what I tended to use if I performed with ONE keyboard. I find the balance of sounds very consistent, they have always had strong pianos, rhodes, brass, strings, good punchy drums and an overall great 'live' sound. They have ALWAYS trailed in the technology department (or at least, after the nineties), but still excelled in the pure 'sound' department. And, for me at least, I realize the ONLY thing the audience hears is the 'sound'. They could care less about the technology!

Yamaha have had SA sounds and multipads for years. Korg have had a fully functioning sampler for years. Neither of those things has been enough to make me change the entire 'sound' I used. The whole POINT of an arranger, as far as I was concerned, was a self-contained, one stop keyboard. If it NEEDED a sampler, it had weaknesses. If the styles NEEDED multipads, they weren't full enough. BTW, is anyone using the BK-9's Key audio feature as a simple audio multipad replacement? If not, you are missing out on a feature that neither Korg not Yamaha offer with as much ease of use (audio multipads).

OF COURSE my answer is individual..! But I feel that many, many arranger users look to get their satisfaction from constant replacement (hence the angst over no new Roland TOTL for 3-4 years!), whereas I tend to think on a far longer cycle. Maybe in 6-7 years, if Roland make no further strides in the MOTL/TOTL area, and I am still playing (I'm 61, who knows what I'll be doing as I approach 70?!) and my BK-9 breaks down, I will cross that bridge when I come to it. Maybe I can find a little used BK-9 on eBay. Maybe I can't.

But I am not going to wring my hands and sweat such a long-term possible problem..! In the meantime, my BK-9 does the job! I don't perform EDM for kids, so I have little use for the latest arranger functions. If you want to perform cutting edge material, in fairness, the arranger isn't really the tool for the job. WS's, Ableton Live laptops and DJ gear is the call for that genre. At 60+, let's face it, how many of us are even into EDM? :sick: But for older genres, I have yet to see the need to migrate. While Korg and Yamaha offer certain advantages, they also come with several disadvantages. Concentrating on the positive ONLY gives a false impression of the need to migrate. As I said, perhaps those with an exaggerated sense of how green the grass is over the hill should spend more time on the forums of those other brands, listening to the complaints of those that already HAVE the so-called solution to all your woes!

For me, Yamaha still sounds too canned, not 'live' enough, and their mid-price arrangers still have an excremental key 'feel', which I consider an important part of the performing experience.

Korg have a very nice arranger in the PA4X, but it is quite formidable to operate, unintuitive, and unnecessarily convoluted in its file structure, and needs considerable editing to play older SMF's well (a traditional Roland strength... after all, they pretty much invented the GM/GS system!). Plus it is quite heavy (especially the 76), boots very slowly, and costs thousands more than a BK-9. And don't get me started about their Makeup Tools equivalents, or the crazy steps you have to go through to simply add a tempo-synced audio loop to your style or sequences!

Finally, I am sorry, but I see technology as a crutch for poor player skill, not the other way round! One finger chords, Melody 'Intelligence' (ha!), articulated sounds to compensate for poor fingering, maybe some NEED all that stuff. I don't... And if the price I have to pay to get it is to have to completely change the 'sound' I have enjoyed for decades, I personally find it too high.

Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you feel that, because there is no BK-9 replacement NOW, you need to migrate just in case there never is, no-one is here to stop you. Bon voyage! :evil: But I see little in any new Korg or Yamaha (especially at the BK-9's price point) that makes me want to leave, yet. If you want to stay cutting edge, have at it! But decide now if you want to do cutting edge MUSIC, or you just want a bunch of features that will have little use in the music you want to perform because they are tailored for EDM. If I were a DJ, sure, maybe a PA4X or the new Yamaha, with their EDM features would be useful. But I never perform EDM!

Whether Roland ever replace the BK-9 or not is a question that I don't need answering for hopefully 6-7 more years.

Patience is its own reward. B)
Last Edit: 18 Sep 2017 21:46 by Diki.
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