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BK9 Styles -how to mix and match drums grooves from diff styles 28 Jun 2017 17:11 #6058

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I am wanting to create Styles with Drum part only to use on my Piano/Bass trio gig.. We are myself on keys BK9, a bass player and a singer. Mostly Jazz tunes.
I have plenty of Jazz Styles on the BK9 plus styles that I have downloaded to the thumb drive that have drum grooves that are useful. I like the 4 variations, fills, endings, intro. I like to mute everything but the drums and play live to the beat. Its better than a sequence to me because I am not bound by the length of the sequence. I let the drum loops play as long as needed, switch between the 4 parts on the fly...it lets us be creative....
I would like to be able to mix and match some drum styles. For instance, we may swing on the verses and switch up to a latin groove...then back to swing.
It would be nice to have one of the 4 style parts play a latin drum beat. Or we may swing a while then switch to a funkier feel with a back beat. Again having 3 parts that swing and one with a backbeat to choose on the fly would be great.
How do I do this ? A Cut and Paste type function would be great.
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BK9 Styles -how to mix and match drums grooves from diff styles 28 Jun 2017 21:51 #6059

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Mark, easily done on Roland arrangers the last 25 years..
Use Style composer...you can copy any style part of any style to any style or variation..

Save the change as a user style..

You can retain the style parts and mute them with an assignable button.

Hint: Keeping the intro with all parts...allows a nice fill turnaround live..
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BK9 Styles -how to mix and match drums grooves from diff styles 29 Jun 2017 02:54 #6060

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Fran's right about copy and paste from one style to the next. I call this a 'Frankenstyle'! It is amazing how you can mutate and morph styles by taking the guitars from one style, the bass from another, the drums from a third, etc.. Or the Var1 from one style and the Var2 from another...

Beware, though... you can't have different tempi for different Variations (AFAIK), so if a variation that you want is half time or double time, you'll probably need to go to a computer to put it in the time of the main Variations (some DAW's have a half time/double time edit for selected data).

As to playing in a stripped down ensemble with minimal accompaniment, you will find that by default, the Track Mute button mutes all the ACC except bass and drums. p46-47 in the manual steps you through setting up which Parts you want to mute in both Style Mode and SMF playback. Default for styles is to leave just the bass and drums going, and SMF's mutes Ch.4, which is usually the guide lead track. You can change the Track Mute for Styles to just ADRUM, and that button will do that in future (don't forget the bit about doing a 'Save Global' or it will forget your settings!).

However, there's an alternative which can be quite useful for when you want to have any ACC or ABASS Parts playing in certain sections of a song. The D-Beam can be used in CTRL mode to do quite a lot of different Mute tasks: ADrum On-Off, ABass On-Off, Acc On-Off, ABass ADrum On-Off, ABass Acc On-Off, ADrum Acc On-Off... Wow!

Now yes, there IS the risk if your arms are flailing away a lot (or someone else's are!), that the function COULD get triggered accidentally (maybe you have a second keyboard above the BK-9 and your hand goes over the D-Beam to get to it!), but most of the time, it's a pretty safe system. And it allows you to quite quickly turn stuff off and on without hitting ONE little button not that close to the keybed...

If you do modern music, you can do some cool 'remix' kind of things by using the Track Mute to mute ACC, and the D-Beam to mute Drums, or Bass (the advantage is, the D-Beam assignments are per-Performance, whereas the Track Mute assignments are Global, so you can pick and choose for each song). Or any combination you feel would be useful. Then an 'either/or' or a 'both' gets you three different mixes...
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BK9 Styles -how to mix and match drums grooves from diff styles 29 Jun 2017 03:18 #6061

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Don't forget to try out the Key Audio feature... There are a ton of absolutely killer drum groove and percussion groove audio loop libraries out there, and you can add these to a Key Audio Set and have them play either instead of the arranger drums or on top of them (a great way to add authentic Latin percussion to a boring drum groove). These audio loops can also be MUCH longer than your average 4 bar arranger groove, allowing you to have some pretty authentic jazz drumming going on...

Also, don't forget, you can have 7 of these loaded at a time, and either trigger them on/off (only one at a time :( but still...!) with the top 7 notes on the keyboard (you can set them to wait until the bar-line comes around to change, so you don't have to be freaky accurate hitting them!) or you can use an FC-7 foot controller to trigger them (if you can't find one, you can build your own custom f/sw controller).

Particularly as you only need unpitched tracks (drums and percussion), this feature seems like it was made for you...

It is one of the least used gems in the BK-9's OS, and it is FAR easier and more convenient to use than any way of doing the same thing on a Korg or Yamaha. B)
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