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Tips and Tricks. Tempo synced Tones to audio tracks 17 May 2017 04:21 #5912

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You may have noticed several synth sounds and pads that pulse rhythmically. In my BK-9, 1302 Strobot, for instance.

You may have even noticed that they change their tempo to match a style or sequence. Extremely cool.

But what if you are using audio backing..? :huh:

Here's the trick... BEFORE you load the audio backing track, set up your sounds that pulse using a style. Now play the track on some other device (computer, MP3 player, whatever) and tap along with the tempo on the Tap Tempo button. You also have the option at this time to tap once a beat, once every other beat, or even get creative and tap three beats against two (triplet quarter notes/crotchets) or whatever get the pulsing sound to work best. Play and hold for a few bars, to make sure there's little drift (replaying the notes on the beat will keep things super tight while you play if there's any tiny drift).

Alternatively, if the audio comes from a source you already know the BPM, enter that (or a divisor of it if going for a half time pulse) using the tempo buttons.

Save the Performance as 'song Setup'

Now that you have done that, now go to the Recordings folder, and load up the Audio file.

Save the Performance as 'song', and you are good to go... First load the setup Performance (this will set the tempo) and then load up the Performance with the audio file.

You will now find your rhythmical sound plays in tempo with the audio file..!

Awesome! Hope this helps.
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Tips and Tricks. Tempo synced Tones to audio tracks 17 May 2017 04:37 #5913

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BTW, if you play with live bands, real drummers, all that stuff... I know, I know! Why would anyone play an arranger with a real band?! :woohoo:

Here's why....

Tap the TAP TEMPO button along with your drummer's count-in. Now, even if he's a hair faster or slower than usual (what drummer isn't if not clicked? :evil: ) all your tempo-based sounds will lock into the band's groove. Nothing destroys a groove faster than rhythmical elements not in sync with the drummer's tempo! Be careful to not rush or drag with your playing, though... they are the trigger for the pulsed sounds. The tempo won't change, but if you are early or late, so will the pulsed sounds.

And, as an icing on the cake, if you set your delays, either MFX's or if you retask the chorus to be delay, to be tempo based, you can slather them liberally all over your lead sounds, and once again, your lead echoes will be locked to the band's tempo, even on different songs. It is the secret sauce on most great solos, guitars, synths, you name it!

Again, you can adjust the timebase of the pulsing and echo effects either by re-tapping the beat (handy for if you want duplet echoes in one section and triplet in another), or if you notice the band speeding up or dragging a hair, nudge the tempo up or down a bit with the <TEMPO> buttons. (Note: you can't re-tap the tempo if you have an audio file attached to the Performance, so if you want to do this in a live band, use a style or SMF as the base. You can use the <TEMPO> buttons, though).

These tempo based tricks will make many a fellow player wonder where the WS/Loop keyboard is! Delve deep into the BK series, you can unlock some amazing synth and lead sounds and use them even with live bands or audio tracks...
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Tips and Tricks. Tempo synced Tones to audio tracks 22 May 2017 01:47 #5941

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Is there any box exsist, that can listen drummers tempo and automaticaly synchronise (via midi) Bk- tempo with drummer in live band?
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Tips and Tricks. Tempo synced Tones to audio tracks 22 May 2017 06:03 #5943

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There have been several in the past. None really prove reliable, because how does the box tell the difference between the drummer going into a triplet section, and an actual change of tempo?

It's one of those things that work in theory, but thrown the vagaries of real drummers, unreliable in actual operation.

Send a click to the drummer. Job done!

Now, recorded drums, that's another can of worms. There are programs like Ableton Live and Maschine that can 'listen' to live audio (in a recording) and derive a click and tempo from it, but they have the advantage of being able to scan ahead of realtime to see if any weird thing the drummer does is consistent with a steady tempo, or whether the drummer has changed the tempo.

Old school days, I used to simply click along with a recorded piece, and then tell the DAW that my click WAS the quarter noes, and it would shift bar lines and beats to line up and create a tempo track that adjusted to live changes in tempo.

But sync to a live drummer? Easier to find a drummer that can sync to a click... :evil:

Now, that doesn't mean that the click has to be one tempo... Back before loop music and modern music became utterly metronomic, we would program songs that did what REAL drummers (not playing to a click) did... speed up the choruses a little bit (2 or 3bpm was usually more than enough) and then slowed back to the original tempo for the verses (or as close as they could!). Or whatever the song needed. It's fascinating to put some of these modern beat detection things like Ableton Live on old pre-clicktrack music, and try to analyze what a GREAT drummer actually did to the track.

Old Rolling Stones, for instance. Charlie Watts couldn't hold a tempo if his life depended on it, but the music sounded GREAT! Despite the tempo variations (or actually, because of them!)...

So, if you get your drummer to follow the click, ask him where he feels like he's dragging (that usually means he'd like to speed up a bit) or where he feels like he's rushing (where he'd slow down a hair). Then, if using MIDI files, insert some tempo changes (as I mentioned, 1-3bpm is usually enough) or if playing with styles, go to the <TEMPO> buttons and nudge it up or down a hair in the right place.

Real music breathes.... Don't choke the life out of your drummer if you HAVE to click him!
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Tips and Tricks. Tempo synced Tones to audio tracks 22 May 2017 06:07 #5944

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BTW, I believe the BK-9 is the only BK with a separate Metronome Out...
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