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I need some clarification please regarding the purchase of a Roland BK7m 05 Apr 2016 01:19 #4066

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Good morning from New Zealand.

I have a Hammond SK2 and it is a stunning instrument.

Recently I had an horrific passenger elevator crash in my three story home. The main wire snapped and the brakes failed. I dropped 12 metres and snapped both my legs and broke my back in three places. To finish things off I sustained a brain injury. I drove a wheelchair for over a year and four years later I am walking again.

The reason I am explaining this is because my brain injury has stopped me from using my left hand to play the organ as before.

I was just informed about this Roland product that may be able to save me from having to sell my Hammond.
My question is can this unit be used like a single chord setup as on most modern organs?

Please forgive my simplistic question but I would be so grateful to know what this Roland product can do to help now my left hand playing has been severely hampered.

Thank you for reading my issue. Finally where can I purchase one of these units if it will give me back my left hand fulfilment?

Best wishes to you all

Joel Smith
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I need some clarification please regarding the purchase of a Roland BK7m 06 Apr 2016 06:40 #4069

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From the BK-7m manual:
Standard: This is the normal chord recognition
mode.
Pianist: In this mode, the BK-7m only recognizes
chords that consist of at least three notes. Playing
only two notes will not cause the Music Style’s key to
change.
Guitarist: Select this setting if you are using a MIDI
guitar to control the BK-7m’s Arranger.
Intelligent: Select “Intelligent” when you want the
chord recognition to supply the missing notes of the
chords you play.

Accordionist1: Select this setting if you are using an
FR-x-series or MIDI-compatible accordion to control
the BK-7m’s Arranger.
Accordionist2: Select this setting if you are using a
MIDI-compatible accordion that transmits its chord
information within a single octave and “dim” chords
without the root note.
Easy: This is another “intelligent” chord fingering system.
Major chords Press the key that corresponds to the chord’s fundamental.
Minor chords Fundamental + any black key to the left of the fundamental.
Seventh chords Fundamental + any white key to the left of the fundamental.
Minor seventh chords
Fundamental + any black key to the left + any white key to the left.

As you can see, one finger gets you a few chords, but two fingers radically widens your choices. Easy mode is the simplest, albeit you have to learn some shortcuts that aren't quite musically related. Intelligent will offer you more choices if you can play three notes occasionally.

Admittedly, if you are looking for more altered, jazz style extension chords (13ths, 7#9's. half diminished, etc.) these are going to be tough to pull off without three notes or more, but basic pop stuff, blues, basic country etc. you should be fine.

As to finding one in New Zealand, you should be able to order one from any Roland dealer, or possibly an online store. Keep an eye out for a used one, too... you never know... :evil:

Sorry to hear about your accident, but it is wonderful you are so positive and looking for ways to work around the injury. Well done! B)
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I need some clarification please regarding the purchase of a Roland BK7m 24 May 2016 00:05 #4373

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Hi Joel,
I'm from NZ too and live in Geraldine South canterbury. I had a BK7m that I traded into the Christchurch Rockshop less than a year ago. I tried to sell it on Trade Me but found no takers. I only got $500 despite it being 6 months. You could try ringing Roger at the Ch Ch Rock Shop to see if they still have it in stock . Actually, its KBB Music which is part of the RS anyway.
All the best - Alan.
Al.
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I need some clarification please regarding the purchase of a Roland BK7m 24 May 2016 04:58 #4374

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Hi Diki I am so grateful for your help and advice. I managed to buy a near new BK-7m unit in Australia for just over $1,000 Australian. The folk who sold me my SK2 Hammond have been wonderful and set it up and will tutor me to run solo as soon as I can carry out one more setting.
The one remaining question is that the technician cannot change the setting over to allow me to use the gain pedal linked input through the BK-7m unit.
The manual does not shed light on this particular issue so I would again be grateful to know how to switch this setting.
Warm regards Joel Smith Nelson New Zealand.
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I need some clarification please regarding the purchase of a Roland BK7m 24 May 2016 05:01 #4375

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Greetings Allan Thank you so much for your feedback. I forwarded your email to my technician and he will see this when he commences duty tomorrow.
You live in a beautiful part of God's Zone. Cheers Joel Smith Nelson.
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I need some clarification please regarding the purchase of a Roland BK7m 24 May 2016 18:46 #4376

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If you are referring to using the Hammond's swell pedal to operate the BK, you need to do a couple of things...

Firstly, you need to be sure that the SK is sending Expression commands (CC#11), then you need to make sure that the BK is receiving those on its receive channel.

Your tech needs to chime in here, as we do not know how he has configured the BK's MIDI Wizard to have the SK control it. There are several options, all of which will need different approaches to enabling the swell pedal.

Personally, I might consider using a separate swell pedal into the Control input on the BK and just use the SK's swell for that alone. There may be occasions where you might want to swell the BK and NOT the SK, and that may overly complicate the setup (you would have to make setups on the SK that enable it or defeat it as needed). If you can handle it, a couple of swell pedals (maybe keep the Hammond one in its usual right foot position, and the BK's on the left so you don't get them confused). Do you have the pedalboard? This may complicate how you lay out any other pedals...

Your main issue could be if you are using the SK for anything OTHER than organ... If not, things are simpler. But the BK allows you to have swell on some Parts and not on others, and also swell on the backing or not. I know old school organists generally swelled everything in one go, but there's a case for leaving the backing untouched and only swell the keyboard Parts, or even just one of the keyboard Parts (to bring one sound in and out of the mix).
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