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G-800 Floppy Emulator 02 Jan 2016 20:37 #3472

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I'm pulling my hair out regarding all the confusion about a floppy emulator for the G-800. There are many "general purpose" emulators, that won't work because Roland's floppy spins full time. Other's say it won't work with Win7, one has to do quite a bit of modifications to get it to work and others say no problem. Music dealers here know nothing and Roland can't help either. There are about 5 units for sale and none are straight forward and they are all overseas with no real answers. I'm about to lose my trusty G-800, which is the heart of my studio and I've got a lot of invested material for it. I've repaired it several times, but, this is a killer.
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G-800 Floppy Emulator 03 Jan 2016 08:34 #3475

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"http://www.e b a y.com/itm/720kb-2DD-Floppy-Emulator-for-Roland-KORG-CNC-/290691189635"
"http://www.e b a y.com/bhp/usb-floppy-emulator"
"http://www.e b a y.com/itm/New-1-44-MB-Floppy-Drive-Emulator-for-Roland-G800-E96-/170970375247"
(Delete Space of word "e b a y")
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G-800 Floppy Emulator 03 Jan 2016 18:51 #3480

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Thanks Loshk, but, I can't read a foreign language. I have seen many such videos, all without audio, or, with foreign captioning. This video doesn't show that it is connected to a G-800. I pretty much know how it works in concept ... I need to know how to install it. Things I need to know:
1) will any drive fit into the g-800 ... I've seen it but no one can direct me to a "real" seller that I can ask questions to.
2) The original 3.5" disk has a file called "auto load" which automatically loads the performance memory upon power up .. can I still do this?
3) I noticed on this video's computer screen, it was using Floppy A. How did it do this when the input to the computer is a USB stick?
4) Does any drive plug & play, or, is there a lot of tweaking like I have seen on reviews?

I have posed similar questions to the 3 leading manufacturers and no one gets back. One site (Felxidrive) shows it in a G-800, but, there is no price, nor, way to order it. When I clicked on "FexidriveMB - USB they had it for $385 USD!!!!!!!! and they won't answer my email either. Everyone else is around $35.00 USD.

I'm still no where
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G-800 Floppy Emulator 03 Jan 2016 20:03 #3482

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2av.com.ua/indexe.htm (Click on the Left Side on button "UNIFLASH-USB")

2AVCom experts have created a musical data storage unit UNIFLASH-USB device working on solid state media such as SD Cards. This unit is mountable inside your synthesizer or any other musical instrument, thus adding much to ease and convenience of operation. The UNIFLASH is a universal thing. For instance, you can use it alternatively with a Yamaha, with a Roland and with a Korg, whatever. The UNIFLASH-USB can be programmed for almost every instrument containing a floppy disk drive. You can set your UNIFLASH-USB device to handle any SD of any capacity you like. The SD leading manufacturers give a 5-year warranty for their products, some of them even more than that!!!
(Maybe the same connection Floppy in G-1000 and G-800 ?)

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File Name: 2AVCom_Host_manual_Eng.pdf
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G-800 Floppy Emulator 04 Jan 2016 18:56 #3489

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Thanks once again, Loshk. This is getting more complicated. I had to give up my XP computer (which had an SD reader) and switch over to a custom computer I had built strictly for FSX Flight Sim. It does not have an SD reader, so I must use USB stick to go between Roland & CPU.

The hunt goes on!
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G-800 Floppy Emulator 05 Jan 2016 15:00 #3498

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There are plenty and cheap USB mini cardreaders out there.
Example: www.google.nl/search?q=USB+cardreader&so...USB+cardreader+sd+tf
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G-800 Floppy Emulator 05 Jan 2016 20:22 #3504

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I know you have a lot invested in the G800 when it comes to time and effort, but perhaps there comes a time when keeping it running, let alone modding it for better performance becomes a game of diminishing gains?

Perhaps it's time to move on to a more recent Roland..? All your legacy data should work fine (styles and SMF's), and the sonic improvement is vast. I know a fair bit about not wanting to change often (I tend to go in roughly ten year increments before I consider a new model) but 20 years (the G800 debuted in 1995) might be pushing it a bit! I actually had a G800, but it was the only Roland I traded in fairly quickly when the G1000 came out in '98, mostly for the convenience of the Zip disk, and the much better basic piano sound.

But compared to those, the G/E and BK series are simply light years ahead in basic sound. Perhaps it is worth looking around for a used E60 (a nice lightweight 76) or even a used BK-9 and join the 21st century? I know how hard it is to part with a much used, very familiar piece of gear, but there comes a time when the sonic and operational improvements make it worth while. And don't worry... all your G800 styles and sequences will still work fine (and the Makeup Tools header editor system makes it a snap to change to newer sounds and massively improve even them!), and you will be future proofed for quite a while longer when it comes to easy backup and storage of your data.

I hope that you get your reader issues sorted out, but I believe it is also worth considering a used, newer arranger. I loved my G1000, but I would never dream of using it any more after a G70 and a BK-9! They simply ARE that much better, in just about every way...
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G-800 Floppy Emulator 06 Jan 2016 08:35 #3511

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It is very rightly said Diki. The man quickly gets used to good, but does not want to return back.
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G-800 Floppy Emulator 06 Jan 2016 18:38 #3513

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Thanks Diki & Loshk for all the time and advice you've provided. The floppy in my G-800 is not dead ... yet, just frequent errors. I am certainly open to change. I hand built my MIDI studio with self made multi-gang MIDI switches and custom routing. Interconnected are a Hammond XK-3c, Emu Classic Keys and other sound modules. I can play on the G-800 & the Hammond (or other sound modules) and they are all recorded on the G-800 floppy. I then take that into my CPU and edit it with Sonar and have Sonar play back through my instruments. It's very comfortable. I have asked my contacts at Musician's Friend who suggested the Roland FA-08. I will look into that and the ones you suggested. All I want is to preserve archived material and to continue on as before. I'm not opposed to switching out the G-800 if all is compatible, however, the emulator is the most cost effective answer. It's the lack of definitive information that is confusing. Some say emulator MUST be on an XP system, others say the included software won't work and they got software from someone else, others say confusing jumper configurations are needed. All of the manufacturers I've contacted are over seas (from me) and give only cryptic answers without answering my specific questions. I can't chance that. Only FlexiDrive had SOME answers, but their drive is $380 USD and everyone else is between $25 to $35. I'll continue looking at alternatives and I do thank you for your help.

P.S. My earlier topic in March had to do with connecting an external USB Floppy to my Win 7 system so that Roland floppies can get into the Win 7 system. The computer would not recognize the drive at all. I had to come up with a very round about method of fooling the system to accept it. That's another reason I'm trying to preserve what I've got.
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G-800 Floppy Emulator 06 Jan 2016 22:37 #3517

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I'd be cautious about a recommendation from MF to replace your arranger with an FA-series keyboard. The FA's aren't arrangers, and you'd lose all the auto-accompaniment stuff that, even if you don't use it all in the final mix, seriously speeds up the process of writing the 'rough'.

If I were you, I'd take a look for a used G70 or BK-9. You would still have a great arranger, but also MUCH better sounds and styles. But obviously, that's a fair chunk of change. But if you are contemplating an FA-08, they can be got for less than that.

Not to push you, but I do have a G70 up for sale in one of our posts here, hint, hint! :evil:
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G-800 Floppy Emulator 07 Jan 2016 17:10 #3519

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Thanks Diki ... I did not know that about the FA-08. They stated it would replace the G-800 perfectly. :pinch: That's why I am doing so much due diligence. I think, for about $35, I'll try one of the emulators. What do I have to lose, except $35! If that fails, I will have to look into a whole unit replacement.. I did look into the G70 & BK-9 and except for the price, they seem good. Maybe, if the emulator fails, you might still have the G70!!
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